On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:14:28 +0900, Brett Robson <info@secret-web.com>
brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

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>Michael Cash wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:45:58 +0900, Brett Robson <info@secret-web.com>
>> brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
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>>>Michael Cash wrote:
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>>>>On 22 Aug 2004 07:31:35 -0700, Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> brought
>>>>down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
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>>>>>On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:08:13 +0900, Michael Cash  ...
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>>>>>>On 21 Aug 2004 08:59:12 -0700, Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> brought
>>>>>>down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
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>>>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bxoh
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>>>>>>>"A total of 14 or 15 F-102 fighters were lost in Vietnam. Three were shot down
>>>>>>>by anti-aircraft or small arms fire, one is believed to have been lost in
>>>>>>>air-to-air combat with a MiG-21, four were destroyed on the ground during Viet
>>>>>>>Cong attacks, and the remainder succumbed to training accidents"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So that is 4 lost to combat. F-4 760 lost, F-100 242, F-105 397.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Nevertheless, we have established that the F-102 was serving in combat in
>>>>>>>Vietnam at the time Bush enlisted to become an F-102 pilot."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In regular USAAF units.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You missed the part about pilots from Bush's unit  [volunteering to] rotating
>>>>>>there?
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"...routinely rotated to Vietnam for combat duty under a **volunteer**
>>>>>>>program..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For which he tried to volunteer.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, he "inquired". This is undated, but I recall a source saying this was before
>>>>>he had even done jet conversion.
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>>>>So his unit was still using prop fighters in 1968-9?
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>>>His unit was flying F-102s. He was not even allowed to climb into 
>>>the cockpit of an F-102 until Jan 1970. He complete his training 
>>>on T-41(?) jet trainer Dec 1969.
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>> Then there was no "jet conversion".
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>"...was before *he* had even done jet conversion"
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>Conversion is the term used once someone is a pilot and they 
>learn a new aircraft. It's also used moving from fixed wing to 
>rotary wind. When the new Airbus comes out pilots will do 
>conversion to become qualified on it.

Conversion is when they switch from being an operational pilot on one
type to another type. Call it the jet phase of training, if you like.





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Michael Cash

"I am sorry, Mr. Cash, but we are unable to accept your rap sheet in lieu of
a high school transcript."

                                Dr. Howard Sprague
                                Dean of Admissions
                                Mount Pilot College