Michael Cash wrote:
> On 22 Aug 2004 07:31:35 -0700, Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> brought
> down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
> 
> 
>>On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:08:13 +0900, Michael Cash  ...
>>
>>>On 21 Aug 2004 08:59:12 -0700, Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> brought
>>>down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bxoh
>>>>
>>>>"A total of 14 or 15 F-102 fighters were lost in Vietnam. Three were shot down
>>>>by anti-aircraft or small arms fire, one is believed to have been lost in
>>>>air-to-air combat with a MiG-21, four were destroyed on the ground during Viet
>>>>Cong attacks, and the remainder succumbed to training accidents"
>>>>
>>>>So that is 4 lost to combat. F-4 760 lost, F-100 242, F-105 397.
>>>>
>>>>"Nevertheless, we have established that the F-102 was serving in combat in
>>>>Vietnam at the time Bush enlisted to become an F-102 pilot."
>>>>
>>>>In regular USAAF units.
>>>
>>>You missed the part about pilots from Bush's unit  [volunteering to] rotating
>>>there?
>>>
>>>
>>>>"...routinely rotated to Vietnam for combat duty under a **volunteer**
>>>>program..."
>>>
>>>For which he tried to volunteer.
>>
>>No, he "inquired". This is undated, but I recall a source saying this was before
>>he had even done jet conversion.
> 
> 
> So his unit was still using prop fighters in 1968-9?

His unit was flying F-102s. He was not even allowed to climb into 
the cockpit of an F-102 until Jan 1970. He complete his training 
on T-41(?) jet trainer Dec 1969.