On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:45:58 +0900, Brett Robson <info@secret-web.com>
brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>
>
>Michael Cash wrote:
>> On 22 Aug 2004 07:31:35 -0700, Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> brought
>> down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>> 
>> 
>>>On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:08:13 +0900, Michael Cash  ...
>>>
>>>>On 21 Aug 2004 08:59:12 -0700, Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> brought
>>>>down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/4bxoh
>>>>>
>>>>>"A total of 14 or 15 F-102 fighters were lost in Vietnam. Three were shot down
>>>>>by anti-aircraft or small arms fire, one is believed to have been lost in
>>>>>air-to-air combat with a MiG-21, four were destroyed on the ground during Viet
>>>>>Cong attacks, and the remainder succumbed to training accidents"
>>>>>
>>>>>So that is 4 lost to combat. F-4 760 lost, F-100 242, F-105 397.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Nevertheless, we have established that the F-102 was serving in combat in
>>>>>Vietnam at the time Bush enlisted to become an F-102 pilot."
>>>>>
>>>>>In regular USAAF units.
>>>>
>>>>You missed the part about pilots from Bush's unit  [volunteering to] rotating
>>>>there?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"...routinely rotated to Vietnam for combat duty under a **volunteer**
>>>>>program..."
>>>>
>>>>For which he tried to volunteer.
>>>
>>>No, he "inquired". This is undated, but I recall a source saying this was before
>>>he had even done jet conversion.
>> 
>> 
>> So his unit was still using prop fighters in 1968-9?
>
>His unit was flying F-102s. He was not even allowed to climb into 
>the cockpit of an F-102 until Jan 1970. He complete his training 
>on T-41(?) jet trainer Dec 1969.

Then there was no "jet conversion".




--

Michael Cash

"I am sorry, Mr. Cash, but we are unable to accept your rap sheet in lieu of
a high school transcript."

                                Dr. Howard Sprague
                                Dean of Admissions
                                Mount Pilot College