mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net wrote:

> Uh, where is it written that a trial is required? Certainly, not all
> criminals or victims desire it.

It is you and others here, who criticize my views, who ask how we are supposed to
know. A full length trial, to examine all available evidence, including what may
have been unknown or withheld beforehand, is better than say, a common patrol cop
wrongly letting people go in about five minutes.

> > Perhaps to only what the prosecution believes they can make stick, not what
> > actually happened.
>
> And very often, they don't know what happened.

Have a trial.

> They DELIBERATELY make the most severe charge they can justify

That they can justify, yes.

> in hope of getting a plea bargain to a lesser charge.

If they can justify a charge of murder beforehand, that is what they ought to try
during investigation and trial. So here's another thing: If they find they can't
justify a charge of murder, judge or jury should be able to find a lesser charge
or sentence, instead of having to make motions on or deliberate on only what is
presented to them. Naturally, some jurors do not want to "find" people guilty of
capital murder because they have doubts about that, even if they may be sure about
something else.

> >> and very often the victim (whom you suddenly don't care
> >> about) is part of the decision making process.
>
> > Also limiting themselves to what they believe the prosecution can make stick,
>
> Sorry, but you're wrong.

What is your assumption as to why victims or survivors agree to a plea bargain?
Why would a rape victim, for example, agree to a charge of attempted rape instead?

> You are not entitled to speak for all victims, however much you pretend
> otherwise.

Why should I be? What entitles you to speak for "all" accused criminals or falsely
accused innocent people?

> > Why does my standing up for trials suddenly make you feel I do not care for
> > victims (crime victims or those falsely accused)?
>
> It's your disdain for things like plea bargains

Why do you say I am against plea bargains? It is people like YOU who are so in
favor of trials, so people can "know". And how do I show disdain for victims?

> (not to mention, your ignorance of the processes involved.)

What ignorance?