John Yamamoto-Wilson wrote:

> I wrote:
>
> > > What you don't see, though - or at least don't care about - is that such
> > > sources (Ernest's on chikan and mine on US imperialism) represent a
> > > perspective - not necessarily one to be espoused, but one which a body
> > > of people nevertheless believe.
>
> Eric Takabayashi wrote:
>
> > Screw this, each person has their own opinion crap I encounter in Japan.
> The
> > scope of the chikan problem is what it is, and you simply aren't willing
> to
> > look for the answers yourself, and reject everything that you have not
> > PERSONALLY seen or experienced yourself. How convenient. I get this from
> war
> > apologists about WWII atrocities.
>
> Eric, are you drunk or something?

No. Are you stupid? How much so?

> You're certainly going over the top in a
> big way here.

It is you who are so defensive. Even Ed would not go so far to defend his
reality as one determines it for themselves stance.

> What have war atrocities got to do with this?

They are facts. Denied and questioned by people with their own agenda, who use
the common and convenient, we don't/can't know or believe, because we didn't
see it approach so common to people I encounter in Japan.

People like you, but NOWHERE near as defensive or stubborn.

> If you're
> seriously interested in discussing this issue, stay rational and don't take
> me out of context.

You are quite explicit about what you are about. You do not want to believe,
and you don't care who finds or says what (unless there is a low figure you
will point out as somehow more reliable than the high). God help me before you
find out about how some women lie about being assaulted to blackmail men,
because you will then

> Take a look at what I go on to say, and calm down.

Realize you are not the world, and come back.

> I said:
>
> > There may or may not be some
> > substance behind their views. If there is, I'd like to know about it. If
> > there isn't, and they've simply dug a hole for themselves, I'd like to see
> > how they dug the hole in order to work out how to engage in effective
> > dialogue with people with such views.
>
> Oh, and please wash your ears out, there's a good man, and listen when I
> tell you <deaf great-aunt html/ start> I ACCEPT THERE IS A PROBLEM <deaf
> great-aunt html/ end>. I have never denied it and wouldn't want to. Believe
> me, if the problem is as bad as you make out, and my family really are more
> likely to be abused than not,

ONE crime which occurs at random anywhere in the world makes your family more
likely to victimized than not.

> I wouldn't want to live here,

There is NO need for you to want to leave. It can be prevented, or at least,
reported easily.

> so I have every
> reason to want to get to the bottom of this.

THEN GO AND TRY IT, go check on the problem of train molestation, NOT by
watching yourself, and instead of spending your time finding your OWN somehow
reliable sources or statistics to refute abuse statistics and downplay abuse
and question victims and findings.

> Please also take a look at the new thread you have started to see why we
> must not allow statistics emblazoned on the front page of Yomiuri (or
> whatever) to be the be-all-and-end-all of our perceptions of reality.

Get your head out of your ass and discover why you cannot determine the nature
of the real world by observing what you see up your ass.