Raj Feridun wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 07:59:47 -0400, Kevin Gowen
> <kgowenNOSPAM@myfastmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>I love how the "cellphone voter" is being touted the past few weeks. 
>>>>Whatever it takes to help you sleep at night.
> 
>  
> 
>>>Now you're the one who sounds a little nervous, Kev. I just read the
>>>news, I don't make it up.
> 
> 
>>I never thought of Arianna Huffington's column as "the news".
> 
> 
> Is Adrianna writing for the Boston Globe now? Is she using the ghost
> name "Associated Press"? I sent this to you once already, genius:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/64r32

Huffington was the first to raise the notion of "Cellphone only teens 
who will rally for Kerry", and boy did the Dems and media pounce on it.

>>>There you go with the polls again. I just said there is no way for
>>>pollsters to effectively reach cellphone only voters.
> 
> 
>>There is also no way for pollsters to effectively reach the deaf and the 
>> extremely rural. This is part of that "margin of error" polls tend to 
>>have. Pollsters realize that they cannot reach every demographic group. 
>>This fact does not make polls useless.
> 
> 
> Did I say it made polls "useless"? 

That is your argument exactly, as evidenced by statements such as "There 
you go with the polls again."

> The issue is whether or not there
> is a sufficient number of these "uncounted" cellphone users to make
> telephone poll results less than accurate in an election this close.

As I have said, the polls have margins of error to compensate for that.

>>>Like I said, unless you're Nostradamus you can bang on your chest all
>>>you like. Only Tuesday will tell.
> 
> 
>>No one is chest-banging. I am simply pointing out that the Roe Effect 
>>seems to be evidencing itself.
> 
> 
> Whatever that means. I'm guessing another one of your snide, neocon,
> smartass quips.

I'm not a neocon. The Roe Effect is a description of certain political 
effects of abortion. It assumes that that liberal and Democratic women 
are more likely to have abortions, and that children's political views 
tend to reflect those of their parents on the whole. The validity of the 
Roe Effect is suggested in the chart at http://tinyurl.com/6w6jb as well 
as the fact that seven electoral votes have shifted to the states that 
Bush carried in 2000.

>>What does intelligence have to do with the knowledge of a given fact? If 
>>you have information on the rate of cellphone usage in the United States 
>> from 2000 to 2004, bring it forth. It would also be nice if you have 
>>demographic information on cellphone-only households.
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> 
> http://tinyurl.com/5eswr
> 
> Can I get you anything else? This took two seconds on Google.

Thank you. If this study is empirically true, it is not good for 
Democrat proponents of theory.

>>"Somewhere out there, there are people who don't own landline phones, 
>>and they will save the day!"
> 
> 
> Coming from you I'd think it'd be "ruin the day". Aside from that,
> right on!

Yes, and I shall continue mocking.

>>>Well fortunately the candidates for President both have. As for you I
>>>wouldn't be surprised if you said you hadn't reached voting age period
>>>judging by the average maturity level of your posts to this group.
> 
> 
>>And yet, you were whooshed.
> 
> 
> Oh sure I was.

Indeed.

- Kevin