On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:12:09 +0900, Raj Feridun
<rferid@NOSPAMyahoo.co.jp> brought down from the Mount tablets
inscribed:

>On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:14:26 +0900, Michael Cash
><mikecash@buggerallspammers.com> wrote:
>
>>>I think you're reaching/wriggling now, Mike. Clinton was impeached on
>>>grounds of perjury, obstruction of justice and abuse of power. Yes,
>>>the House of Representatives impeached him but he WAS acquitted in the
>>>same impeachment proceedings in the Senate impeachment hearings. We
>>>are not talking about separate cases.
>
>>"...some of Clinton's most vicious proponents for impeachment from the
>>Republican Party were adulterous a-holes like the loudmouth, Bob Barr
>>of Georgia. That hypocrisy is what sickens me the most about the
>>Republicans."
>
>>Which can leave one with the impression that you thought Clinton was
>>impeached for adultery. And your current post makes it appear as
>>though you do indeed think that the Senate acquittal wipes out the
>>impeachment itself. (See Article I, Section 2, Clause 5).
>
>>And if he was *not* impeached on grounds of adultery, then the
>>adultery of those who impeached him, while morally reprehensible,
>>doesn't constitute hypocrisy.
>
>Clinton may have perjured himself when he was brought up on charges of
>having sexual relations with a white house intern. Some of those
>leading the charge were equally guilty of such infidelities themselves
>(Mr. Barr).

He was charged with having sexual relations with a White House intern?
When was this?

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Senate Vote on Perjury

washingtonpost.com staff
Friday, February 12, 1999

The 55-45 roll call by which the Senate voted to reject the article of
impeachment alleging that President Clinton committed perjury and
provided false testimony before a grand jury with regard to the Paula
Jones's sexual harassment lawsuit and his relationship with Monica
Lewinsky. A two-thirds vote - 67 - was needed to convict.

Voting "not guilty" were 45 Democrats and 10 Republicans. Voting
"guilty" were 45 Republicans. 
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and

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Senate Vote on Obstruction of Justice

washingtonpost.com staff
Friday, February 12, 1999

The 50-50 roll call by which the Senate voted to reject the article of
impeachment alleging that President Clinton obstructed justice in an
attempt to delay, impede, cover up and conceal evidence in the Paula
Jones sexual harassment lawsuit. A two-thirds vote - 67 - was needed
to convict.

Voting "guilty" were 50 Republicans. Voting "not guilty" were 45
Democrats and five Republicans.
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I was unable to find a "Senate Vote on Having Sexual Relations with a
White House Intern"

Perhaps that was because the whole mess didn't stem from the actual
sexual relation with Lewinsky, but from an allegation of having
suborned perjury from Lewinsky in the Paula Jones trial.

Here's an interesting link: http://tinyurl.com/5l3cp

Read the actual Articles of Impeachment and point out to me in there
where he was impeached for having an adulterous affair. Thanks.
>
>While I deeply regret that Clinton did his verbal dance under oath I
>regret even more that he endured any witch hunt at all. His sex life
>is his own business and it had nothing to do with his ability to act
>as President. It was an opportunity for his hypocritical opponents to
>run him out to dry and they went right for it but came up short.

I also deeply regret that Clinton did what he did.

(But the fact remains that the man *was* impeached, and that the
Senate acquittal does not remove the impeachment).








--

Michael Cash

"I am sorry, Mr. Cash, but we are unable to accept your rap sheet in lieu of
a high school transcript."

                                Dr. Howard Sprague
                                Dean of Admissions
                                Mount Pilot College