in article 6e8vd0t99niece210p2eccjqt2f5bebt04@4ax.com, Raj Feridun at
rferid@NOSPAMyahoo.co.jp wrote on 6/28/04 1:52 PM:

> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:01:23 +0900, Ernest Schaal
> <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, but no one but is is arguing that it is the "truth." Instead, he is
>> using well-established movie techniques to present a picture that is no more
>> "accurate" than the recent political ads by Bush and Kerry.
> 
> No, I think the smoke and mirrors act is being attempted by the right
> who want to somehow discredit the allegations made without actually
> responding to them.

Raj,

I think you are really going overboard there, reading conspiracy theory into
everything.

Look back to what I really said, instead of what you have twisted it to say
so that it will fit into your stereotypical dogma.

I said that "One does not go to Moore for 'Truth,' one goes to him for
entertainment." Even Moore hasn't claimed that it was the "Truth." Only
Gerry has made that claim.

I can't comment on the movie more specifically than I did, because I haven't
seen it. But then, neither have you (if your word is to believed). I find it
extremely dogmatic on your part to state that my remark that his movie was
no more or less truthful than other political ads by Republicans or
Democrats was somehow "discredit the allegations made without actually
responding to them."

The only parts of the film that I have seen were the clips about Bush going
on vacation (as if all other presidents didn't go on vacation) and the clip
of the little girl walking peacefully in pre-war Iraq (as if Iraq under
Saddam was idyllic). Neither clip gave me any indication that this work was
any more "real" or "true" (whatever you think that means) than his previous
work
 

>> I did see above, and again, only you are arguing that he is somehow
>> presenting the "truth."
> 
> I am arguing that you, and your right-wing brethren who are upset by
> this film choose to pointlessly namecall rather than factually refute
> the allegations made by the film.
> 
> Raj

Rai,

I was not the one that said it was "full of lies." That was your
mischaracterization of my remarks. I simply said of him what he has already
said about himself. Are you REALLY saying that he was resorting to name
calling against himself?