On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:01:23 +0900, Ernest Schaal
<eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote:

>in article bi5vd0p3v443u5easla6n6sveih8jqrrcg@4ax.com, Raj Feridun at
>rferid@NOSPAMyahoo.co.jp wrote on 6/28/04 12:54 PM:

>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:49:26 +0900, Ernest Schaal
>> <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote:
 
>>>> The Moore-haters don't refute the so-called lies with facts. They
>>>> instead attack Moore personally.
 
>>> It is not an "attack" to say that Moore is what he readily admits to be.
 
>> Nothing wrong with propaganda when it happens to be the truth.

>Sorry, but no one but is is arguing that it is the "truth." Instead, he is
>using well-established movie techniques to present a picture that is no more
>"accurate" than the recent political ads by Bush and Kerry.

No, I think the smoke and mirrors act is being attempted by the right
who want to somehow discredit the allegations made without actually
responding to them.

>>>> See the film for yourself. Believe it or not and if you're going to
>>>> come out publically and call Moore a liar actually have some facts to
>>>> back that up. They would speak way louder than the name-calling.
 
>>> No one is calling him a "liar." We are simply saying that he is presenting
>>> propaganda, although entertaining propaganda.
 
>> See above.

>I did see above, and again, only you are arguing that he is somehow
>presenting the "truth."

I am arguing that you, and your right-wing brethren who are upset by
this film choose to pointlessly namecall rather than factually refute
the allegations made by the film. 

Raj