"Kevin Wayne Williams" <nihongo@paxonet.kom> wrote in message
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> Bryce wrote:
>
> >
> > But remember, as much as they wanna say it, alcholism isn't a disease.
They
> > just tell you that so you feel better and you can think it's not your
fault.
> >
> Actually, Bryce, they teach a little mantra that I have found useful
> many times: "I am wholly responsible for the wreckage that is my past."
>
> Pretty much any alcoholic that manages to stay sober for any period of
> time understands that the first drink he takes is completely,
> absolutely, his fault. The consequences of it are harsher for us than
> they are for others, and you can have some interesting debates about
> whose fault the 15th drink is, but the blame for the first one lies
> solely at the drinker's feet.
>
> KWW
>

I would say that the first through the hundredth are their fault. From there
on out it might be split 99% own fault and 1% societal and "damn, it just
tastes good!".

From there on out, every 1000th drink you partake in, you might minus 1%
from the 99% side and add it onto the 1% side. Is this problematic, yes.

But yes, the first drink absolutely is one's own fault.

But then so is the salad dressing on the salad; that is one own's fault too.
No bitching about it. That extra french fry, not exerxising... it's all
one's own fault.