Re: RASHOMON
Eric Takabayashi wrote:
> "John W." wrote:
>
>
>>Eric Takabayashi wrote:
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>>>"John W." wrote:
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>>>>I think folks that live in Japan don't understand truly how big the
>>>>anime culture is.
>>>
>>>I can read about it often while in Japan, and I can see it while at
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>>home.
>>
>>>The appeal or reach of anime is not the issue. Not even the unsavory
>>>aspects of anime are the issue.
>>>
>>>You, however, link anime and its popularity, to crimes against
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>>children.
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>>>You even wonder if anime is not the cause of in increase in child
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>>porn (or
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>>>at least, the increase in child porn online from servers in the US).
>>>
>>
>>Now where did I say that anime leads to the increase of child porn in
>>the US?
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>
> You "wonder" if child porn "becoming worse" in the US (I had told you of
> the UN? claim that perhaps 60% of child porn online was based in the US,
> as opposed to how an older UN report used to claim that Japan was the
> largest source of child porn online) is not related to the rise in
> popularity of Japanese animation.
>
Please cite me on this. I said something to the effect that the
portrayal of young girls in movies/tv shows as sex objects seems to have
gotten worse. You made the leap into child pornography.
> What did you mean, exactly?
>
>
>>I really think you're stretching things a bit here. Anime is a
>>definite influence on Japanese and American culture; to even suggest
>>otherwise is idiotic.
>
>
> I did not deny that. We are not talking about culture, you are talking
> about crime against children in Japan and child porn in the US, and how it
> relates to Japanese animation or its rising popularity.
>
Again, you're really, really stretching my words to suit your particular
agenda here. If you like anime, fine. The essence of what I'm saying is
that it's wrong to portray teenage girls as sex objects; whether that's
porn or not is up to you I suppose.
>
>>I never once said it is the root of all evil,
>>though. In fact, relating to the US I'm not sure I said it's the root
>>of anything related to child pornography.
>
>
> Oh, really? It's not the root of evil, you just focus on its unsavory
> aspects such as porn and portrayal of young girls, wonder if it not
> related to how child porn is "becoming worse" in the US lately, wonder
> about the number of Japanese crimes against children, and talk about how
> anime is unsuitable for children.
>
I think you're confusing other people's arguments with my own. I don't
think I ever made a direct, unyielding connection between child porn and
anime; one certainly exists, but I never said anime is the source of
this. If anything I've insisted it's a contributing factor to the
continuing sexual deifying of young girls.
John W.
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