"USA" <USA@aol.com> wrote in message
news:cPFIa.1192$L11.207@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> > > Two known apologists for North Korea.
> >
> > Me? Not really...though I do think there are circumstances which cause
> > nations to behave irrationally and almost barbarically.
> >
> > Say...how are them 1000+ ethnic arabs doing "in cummunicado" anyway
> without
> > due process? And what about those POW...oh sorry...what do you call them
> > again?..."enemy combatants" doing in Guantanimo Bay CUBA?

> There are many aspects to what is happening in the US that in all honesty
> frightens me.

> the America I have known
> my entire life has never reacted in a way as exemplified in your examples
> above.

Right.

So some catastrophic event occurred that caused a state to react in a way
that infringes on the fundamental rights of a percentage of the population.

But somehow, you can rationalize the behaviour and actions of one state,
yet you can say that the other is "evil" and that every single member of
that state is "crazy", and therefore the deaths of a few thousand of them
under a pre-emptive strike would just be a justifiable drag...

> But you know something Austin? How I felt when I was younger really is
> different from how I feel
> today. I think that when one is young they have little to really lose, in
> the form of family, children,
> home, assets, career, whatever. It's damn easy to be liberal when you've
got
> nothing to lose.

Sorry...that is just a load of shit.

Having kids has had the opposite effect...it has made me more acutely aware
of the importance of living as a community rather than in armed camps. It
has taught me that difficult circumstances more that anything else are
created by insecurities and by fear and by a refusal to accept the humanity
of your "enemy".

> And it's
> damn easy to be conservative when you do.

Yes...it is damn easy to be "conservative". It is damn easy to be afraid. It
is damn easy to be selfish. It is damn easy to say "screw everybody else, I
don't care as long as my life is a-okay". It is damn easy to look at that
extra $1 or two and think how you can spend it personally rather than taking
that extra risk and thinking about the power of that combined capital.

> That's why young people, college
> students all over the
> world often go head-to-head with the older reigning authorities.

Herd mentalities exist everywhere.

> If he truth be said, because of this, I don't really mind about Kay's
> Anti-Bush, Anti-Americanism because
> as I said, that kind of thing is not unusual at all for young people.

I don't think Kay is as young as you think he/she is...

> But it's his defense of the KJI regime that makes me believe that he is
> retarded.

Kay hasn't defended the KJI regime. Kay, like me, believes that the current
regime is not purposely starving its population. Famine has forced the
regime to decide who and what are the important things to maintain.

What % of the GNP of the US is spent on military? How many people in the US
are starving? Are living in absolute poverty?

Now...imagine if 1% of that military spending were instead spent of social
programs. Does that mean that the US is *purposely* starving it populace
because a % of it is starving?

Now let's say that the US faces an earthquake in California with
simultaneous flooding in the midwest for 3
years. Let's say that Al-qaeda has become more bellicose in its statements.
Where do you think the resources will be spent? On ensuring that the
populace is fed or that the military is strong and stable?

Think long and hard about this (if you are capable).

There are other reasons to criticize the North Korean regime, but accusing
them of starving their populace on purpose is asinine.

> Also his argument that my "attacking NKorea" is the equivalent of
"attacking
> ALL Koreans" which
> makes me believe that he is a closet Racist.

I am more inclined to believe that you are just reading way too much into
Kay's comments...

> > > Most Korean-Americans think you two are as retarded as I do.
> >
> > Sure thing. Some people are so meek and pitiable that they always feel
the
> > need to convince themselves that they are part of the crowd.

> Well...I am guessing that you are pointing your finger at people like Dan
> when you say that.

Dan is who he is. I am referring to *you* specifically.

> In the United States we are ALL Americans first. In WWII, the
> Japanese-Americans made a choice.

A "choice"? What "choice" did these Japanese-americans have?

> Today there are Arab-Americans making a choice.

What "choice" are you referring to?

> I don't think that handing out a Naturalization Certificate
> to people like Kay makes them Americans. I think that when a person,
> regardless of ethnic background chooses to support the United States
First, they are truly Americans.

Ah...and those Nth generation americans that don't agree with US policy
are...not truly americans?

It is precisely that statement (who is or is not a true american) which
shows why americans inherently fan racism and will never rid themselves of
it as a country.

> Austin, if you really are not a Korean-American then all this doesn't
> pertain to you.
> You are free to hate america all you want if you like.

When you are sleeping beside an elephant, you feel every movement whether
you like it or not...


Austin