declan_murphy@hotmail.com wrote:

> I'm wondering when it became more common to refer to the dialect as
> Nagoya-ben instead of Owari-ben? I've even seen some papers referring
> to Aichi-ben, which may suggest that the (foreign) researchers never
> went further east than about Arimatsu or thereabouts. The Chita
> peninsula south of Nagoya also has its own patois.

I've known folks in Kansai who don't like the term Kansai ben (and not
just oure Kinai loving ex member). I suppose it's true; the dialect of
Himeji is/was different than in Osaka, and both are different from
Kyoto; and Wakayama is in that mix as well.

I've heard some Nagoya dialect and it doesn't sound any more
gruff/illegible than what my wife's mom's family speaks (the dad is
from Gifu and lived in Himeji for thirty years or so; he can really
pull out some interesting language when he gets drunk).

John W.