Declan Murphy <declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 17, 10:22?pm, mtfes...@netMAPSONscape.net wrote:

> > > > Never understood the fascination with Guiness; I like British, US, and
> > > > Australian stouts much more. Irish stouts just don't seem to have any
> > > > flavor.
> > > I prefer Beamish or Murphy's to Guinness, but they are even harder to
> > > find, especially on-tap. I don't know of any Australian stouts, and
> > > apart from boutique breweries, didn't know they even exist. Outside
> >
> > The most popular here is Tooth Sheaf, but Cooper's makes an excellent
> > one as well.

> Cooper's is pretty much a boutique (albeit a good one, and
> increasingly large one). They didn't make a stout during the time I
> was in Australia, or if they did, it didn't make it to Sydney. Made an
> excellent series of ales and had the best home brewing kits.

Cooper's ale was very popular here for awhile; the stout more hit-or-miss.

> Tooth's and Co went bankrupt when I was a kid. I've no idea who owns
> the name these days, but the Kent Brewery is an apartment complex
> opposite the Broadway campus of UTS.

Tooth was available (at least) a couple years ago, but I haven't bought it
it years.

Mebbe I'll run down to BevMo and check out the selection. 

But my favorite is Deschutes Obsidian Stout. 

Pretty sure you can't get it in ol' Nihon, though...

> > > the Irish community in Sydney, nobody I know seems to drink stouts at
> > > all.
> >
> > The Japanese make some decent "stouts", but they have the body of a
> > porter, to me.

> Baird Brewing in Numazu make(/made?) a nice brew, the "shimaguni
> stout". Bryan the owner is an American though.

Don't care how they get there, as long as they get there.

Mike