On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:08:43 +0900, "kuri" <cc@dotmel.cam> brought
down from the Mount tablets inscribed:

>
><declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>> Depends on the latter. The Irish restauranter
>> http://www.tadgspub.com/
>> was a chef in Ireland,
>>and his first job in Japan was also as a chef.
>
>I know, that's the case for certain professions that the Japanese agree to
>import. There are many French cooks too. But if your specialty is not
>concerned, that takes many years to restart another career and get the
>required experience.
>At mc-kaiwa, or outside, I've met over 5000 persons that were
>lawyer/chemist/nurse/maths teacher/travel agent/accountant/etc and had no
>perspective of doing their job in Japan, even in a remote future. The
>linguistic aspect is one reason, but not the major one as language can be
>learnt. Many jobs are just not open to foreigners, not even to Japanese
>older than 22, no matter the skills.
>Certainly a number of posters here (most ?) have managed to avoid or get
>away from the eikaiwa world, but that's not representative. The others (4500
>of the 5000) have packed their things and went back, most didn't last 2
>years.

But how many of the people even TRIED to break out of the McEnglish
mold and exercise their profession in Japan? It's easy to just
complain that there are too many barriers and not even try. I've
personally been rejected by many trucking companies in Japan, and have
been clearly and explicitly told that my foreignness was the reason
for the rejection.

I sometimes think about the gaigins who bitch and whine about not
receiving fair and equal treatment with Japanese when it comes to
hiring. My opinion is that while they may want *fair* treatment, they
wouldn't tolerate *equal* treatment.





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Michael Cash

"Clowns to the left of me and jokers to the right, Mr. Cash.
Clowns and jokers."

                                Prof. Ernest T. Bass
                                Mount Pilot College