necoandjeff wrote:
> B Robson wrote:
> 
>>necoandjeff wrote:
>>
>>
>>>B Robson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>You summon the devil and expect him to do you bidding?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>From you, I have come to expect very little, Brett. But I do expect
>>>>>the decency not to drag my wife or unborn daughter into your rant,
>>>>>provided you have even a sliver of civility.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There should be a comma before my name (inserted above for you).
>>>>Using someone's name in sentences like that is very "folksy".
>>>
>>>
>>>Gee, thanks. Allow me to return the favor by adding in the missing
>>>apostrophe from your post (inserted above for you).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I feel sorry for your daughter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Give your child a stupid name that she will hate and you expect
>>>>>>from me what exactly? (Hopefully she will grow up in Sepponia and
>>>>>>won't realise)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's funny. Miyu (irrespective of the kanji used to write it) is
>>>>>the 14th most popular girls name in 2004
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
> (http://allabout.co.jp/children/childbirth/closeup/CU20041227A/index2.htm)
> 
>>>>>and was the 12th most popular in 2003. Show's how completely out of
>>>>>touch you are Brett. You must really hate living here.
>>>>
>>>>Comma again.
>>>>
>>>>"here", oh fuck you live in Japan! Poor thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>And you don't any more? Japan just became an even better place to
>>>live.
>>
>>NNTP-Posting-Host: m030208.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp
> 
> 
> So are still slugging it out in Japan. 

Yes I am a bit of a slugger. Hit a few home runs recently.

 > Must be tough for you; unlucky with
> the language,

How can one be unlucky with a language?

> women

Really? I bet I have had a lot more sex than you in the past 6 months 
and the next 2 years. Did you have sex last weekend?

I've said it before, I am really sick of married people trying to live 
vicariously through my sex life. If you are so unhappy go to a hooker.

> and any semblance of an understanding of the culture.

I think you are a dick. That has nothing to do with understanding Japan.

> But then someone with a personality like yours would likely have trouble
> even back home.

If by home you mean your home, then you are right. Anyone with a 
personality would have trouble there.

> 
> 
>>>
>>>>The kanji you gave gets 141 hits in google, but you knew that didn't
>>>>you.
>>>
>>>
>>>And your point is?
>>
>>See below.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/ is a great resource. Or ask your
>>>>>>wife.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>弥 4C6F [4479:96ed]  U5f25 B57 G9 S8 XJ0573D 【彌】F1687 N1565 V1689
>>>>>>H288 DK214 L2241 K1536 O832 DO1980 MN9753 MP4.0700 IN2065 P1-3-5
>>>>>>I3h5.2 Q1829.0 Ymi2 Wmi ミ ビ いや や あまねし いよいよ とおい ひさし
> 
> ひ
> 
>>>さ
>>>
>>>
>>>>>.しい
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>わた.る T1 わたる みつ ひろ よ all the more; increasingly SOD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>優 4D25 [4505:9744]  U512a B9 G6 S17 F334 N564 V334 H177 DK130 L993
>>>>>>K453 O2599 DO1148 MN1261 MP1.0957 E984 IN1033 DH995 DT1000 DJ1168
>>>>>>DG140 P1-2-15 I2a15.1 Q2124.7 DR2167 Yyou1 Wu ユウ ウ やさ.しい すぐ.
> 
> れ
> 
>>>る
>>>
>>>
>>>>>ま
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>さ.る T1 ゆ よし tenderness; excel; surpass; actor; superiority;
>>>>>>gentleness SOD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So you still don't get it. The name HAS NO MEANING you idiot. Of
>>>>>course I know all about the two kanji that make up the name. A lot
>>>>>of thought and discussion went into choosing them.
>>>>
>>>>You put a lot of thought and discussion into choosing kanji that
>>>>don't mean anything, Jeff? I can't believe you are actually stupid
>>>>enough to say that, Jeff.
>>>
>>>
>>>Still having trouble with the distinction between names having
>>>meaning and the kanji that make up names having meaning, I see.
>>>Let's review. I said, "The name HAS NO MEANING..." You said, "kanji
>>>that don't mean anything..." See the difference? Amazing how much
>>>easier communication becomes when you can actually keep words
>>>straight in your head long enough to move on to the next sentence
>>>isn't it?
>>
>>
>>So you would have no problem little naming Mi-chan 弥悔？　(ask your wife)
>>
>>What you don't get is, I reject your assertion.
> 
> 
> Well, who can argue with that? I'm convinced!

Actually I don't care what you think. What I think is that you are a 
dick, Jeff.

> 
> 
>>>>>And wwwjdic is actually very weak with
>>>>>respect to 弥. To the extent it has any meaning at all in Japanese
>>>>>(it is used almost exclusively in names, and I guarantee that you'd
>>>>>be lucky to find even one in a hundred Japanese who could even
>>>>>begin to tell you what it means by itself) "all the more;
>>>>>increasingly" doesn't capture it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But you know it's meaning, Jeff.
>>>
>>>
>>>Indeed. I'm the one who chose that particular kanji, not because of
>>>its meaning (since nobody knows the meaning anyway), but because 1)
>>>it is
>>
>> > ****far more unique****
>>
>>
>>haaaahaaaaa, I didn't even have to say that! You came out with it all
>>by yourself. Your little daughter gets a unique name. Wow. She is an
>>IN-DUH-VIDUAL!!!! You're a dick and your daughter will hate her name.
>>Guarrantee it. At least she won't have to put up with meowww.
> 
> 
> Yes! There it is! Those critical reasoning skills, hard at work. Did you
> understand what I meant when I said that Miyu was the 14th most popular
> girl's name last year, regardless of the kanji? That is her name. Miyu. So
> let's review shall we? Her name will be the 14th most popular name given to
> Japanese girls in the year 2004. So do you suppose all those little Miyu's
> will grow up hating their name? This is quite different from using unique
> characters (though not unusual by any stretch) to write the phonetic name
> Miyu.

Then let her write her name in hiragana or maybe katakana to emphasis 
the fact that she is a unique little flower, Jeff.

> There are certainly people out there who hate their name because it is
> unusual. But that is a very different concept altogether from having a
> fairly common name that happens to be written with somewhat unique kanji. Do
> you get the difference, or do I need to explain it in more detail.
>

Let me apply my reasoning skills, Jeffo. You are trying to make a 
distinction between her name and the characters that compose it as if it 
was somehow a completely different concept.

"Miyu-chan please write you name here"
"My name or the characters that are used to compose it?"

I am going to give my daughter the first 4 digits of my regimental 
number following by a non-joyo kanji. I bet no one will have that name. 
It will be so cool. Or even better BURETSUKO, not enough katakana-kanji 
names these days.

CL's daughter will hate her name too. Imagine giving a child that nasty 
kanji.

I can't believe that people buy a book and go to consultants to choose 
names for their kids. Here is some free advice, exactly 3 people care. 
You, your wife and your poor child stuck with a stupid name.

> 
>>Thanks Jeffo, it's been a really funny thread. I guess you didn't know
>>that I had such strong opinions on people that give their children
>>stupid names so they can be IN-DUH-DIVUALs.
> 
> 
> No. What I didn't know is who stupid you were regarding the concept of
> Japanese names. Well, actually, yes I did. But it's so fun yanking your
> chain because you do such a good job of making yourself look like a complete
> idiot, with very little help from me.
> 

If I am such an idiot stop seeking my approval.