B Robson wrote:
> necoandjeff wrote:
>
>> B Robson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> You summon the devil and expect him to do you bidding?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From you, I have come to expect very little, Brett. But I do expect
>>>> the decency not to drag my wife or unborn daughter into your rant,
>>>> provided you have even a sliver of civility.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There should be a comma before my name (inserted above for you).
>>> Using someone's name in sentences like that is very "folksy".
>>
>>
>> Gee, thanks. Allow me to return the favor by adding in the missing
>> apostrophe from your post (inserted above for you).
>>
>>
>>> I feel sorry for your daughter.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Give your child a stupid name that she will hate and you expect
>>>>> from me what exactly? (Hopefully she will grow up in Sepponia and
>>>>> won't realise)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's funny. Miyu (irrespective of the kanji used to write it) is
>>>> the 14th most popular girls name in 2004
>>>>
>>
>>
(http://allabout.co.jp/children/childbirth/closeup/CU20041227A/index2.htm)
>>
>>>> and was the 12th most popular in 2003. Show's how completely out of
>>>> touch you are Brett. You must really hate living here.
>>>
>>> Comma again.
>>>
>>> "here", oh fuck you live in Japan! Poor thing.
>>
>>
>> And you don't any more? Japan just became an even better place to
>> live.
>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: m030208.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp

So are still slugging it out in Japan. Must be tough for you; unlucky with
the language, women and any semblance of an understanding of the culture.
But then someone with a personality like yours would likely have trouble
even back home.

>>
>>
>>> The kanji you gave gets 141 hits in google, but you knew that didn't
>>> you.
>>
>>
>> And your point is?
>
> See below.
>
>
>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/ is a great resource. Or ask your
>>>>> wife.
>>>>>
>>>>> 弥 4C6F [4479:96ed]  U5f25 B57 G9 S8 XJ0573D 【彌】F1687 N1565 V1689
>>>>> H288 DK214 L2241 K1536 O832 DO1980 MN9753 MP4.0700 IN2065 P1-3-5
>>>>> I3h5.2 Q1829.0 Ymi2 Wmi ミ ビ いや や あまねし いよいよ とおい ひさし
ひ
>>
>> さ
>>
>>>> .しい
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> わた.る T1 わたる みつ ひろ よ all the more; increasingly SOD
>>>>>
>>>>> 優 4D25 [4505:9744]  U512a B9 G6 S17 F334 N564 V334 H177 DK130 L993
>>>>> K453 O2599 DO1148 MN1261 MP1.0957 E984 IN1033 DH995 DT1000 DJ1168
>>>>> DG140 P1-2-15 I2a15.1 Q2124.7 DR2167 Yyou1 Wu ユウ ウ やさ.しい すぐ.
れ
>>
>> る
>>
>>>> ま
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> さ.る T1 ゆ よし tenderness; excel; surpass; actor; superiority;
>>>>> gentleness SOD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you still don't get it. The name HAS NO MEANING you idiot. Of
>>>> course I know all about the two kanji that make up the name. A lot
>>>> of thought and discussion went into choosing them.
>>>
>>> You put a lot of thought and discussion into choosing kanji that
>>> don't mean anything, Jeff? I can't believe you are actually stupid
>>> enough to say that, Jeff.
>>
>>
>> Still having trouble with the distinction between names having
>> meaning and the kanji that make up names having meaning, I see.
>> Let's review. I said, "The name HAS NO MEANING..." You said, "kanji
>> that don't mean anything..." See the difference? Amazing how much
>> easier communication becomes when you can actually keep words
>> straight in your head long enough to move on to the next sentence
>> isn't it?
>
>
> So you would have no problem little naming Mi-chan 弥悔？　(ask your wife)
>
> What you don't get is, I reject your assertion.

Well, who can argue with that? I'm convinced!

>>>> And wwwjdic is actually very weak with
>>>> respect to 弥. To the extent it has any meaning at all in Japanese
>>>> (it is used almost exclusively in names, and I guarantee that you'd
>>>> be lucky to find even one in a hundred Japanese who could even
>>>> begin to tell you what it means by itself) "all the more;
>>>> increasingly" doesn't capture it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> But you know it's meaning, Jeff.
>>
>>
>> Indeed. I'm the one who chose that particular kanji, not because of
>> its meaning (since nobody knows the meaning anyway), but because 1)
>> it is
>  > ****far more unique****
>
>
> haaaahaaaaa, I didn't even have to say that! You came out with it all
> by yourself. Your little daughter gets a unique name. Wow. She is an
> IN-DUH-VIDUAL!!!! You're a dick and your daughter will hate her name.
> Guarrantee it. At least she won't have to put up with meowww.

Yes! There it is! Those critical reasoning skills, hard at work. Did you
understand what I meant when I said that Miyu was the 14th most popular
girl's name last year, regardless of the kanji? That is her name. Miyu. So
let's review shall we? Her name will be the 14th most popular name given to
Japanese girls in the year 2004. So do you suppose all those little Miyu's
will grow up hating their name? This is quite different from using unique
characters (though not unusual by any stretch) to write the phonetic name
Miyu. There are certainly people out there who hate their name because it is
unusual. But that is a very different concept altogether from having a
fairly common name that happens to be written with somewhat unique kanji. Do
you get the difference, or do I need to explain it in more detail.

> Thanks Jeffo, it's been a really funny thread. I guess you didn't know
> that I had such strong opinions on people that give their children
> stupid names so they can be IN-DUH-DIVUALs.

No. What I didn't know is who stupid you were regarding the concept of
Japanese names. Well, actually, yes I did. But it's so fun yanking your
chain because you do such a good job of making yourself look like a complete
idiot, with very little help from me.

Jeff