selftrans@yandex.ru (Sergey Karavashkin) wrote in message news:<a42650fc.0403121447.3af8a34f@posting.google.com>...
> thoovler@excite.com (Igor) wrote in message news:<d434b6c6.0403012311.1a575292@posting.google.com>...
> > selftrans@yandex.ru (Sergey Karavashkin) wrote in message news:<a42650fc.0403011524.58db9e55@posting.google.com>...
> > > thoovler@excite.com (Igor) wrote in message news:<d434b6c6.0402101220.44634b7a@posting.google.com>...
> > > > selftrans@yandex.ru (Sergey Karavashkin) wrote in message news:<a42650fc.0402081450.153f158a@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > thoovler@excite.com (Igor) wrote in message news:<d434b6c6.0402020056.7de6d18b@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > selftrans@yandex.ru (Sergey Karavashkin) wrote in message news:<a42650fc.0402011435.6e84feaa@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > > > Dear Colleagues,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We open the new volume 
> > > > > 
> > > > > [snip]
>  
> > No matter how long-winded your explanations get, please bear in mind
> > that you cannot defeat the fact that curl grad ALWAYS vanishes.  Till
> > you accept that fact, any attempted deviation from it will lead you
> > down a long and worthless path.  Maybe you are attempting to
> > theoretically explain some observable effect, but I'm having trouble
> > following your arguments.  In any case, maintaining that curl grad is
> > anything but zero won't get you there.  It's a dead notion.  Good
> > luck.
> 
> Dear Igor,
> 
> This means, you have not read my long-winded explanations, neither our
> paper? You even did not click the animation suggested to your
> attention? You have considered nothing of my arguments? You even did
> not understand, about what do I tell you. But I'm afraid, I will not
> go on trying to prove you something. Please read my today post to
> Franz Heymann and try to help him to determine the circulation of
> vector in a very simple model. Then you possibly will understand,
> where the deadlock is namely - of course, if you want to understand
> it.
> 
> Sergey


Actually, I looked it over a couple of times.  Frankly, I couldn't
really find anything wrong with the flow of your arguments.  My take
is that there is a mistake in there somewhere.  At least there would
have to be, since curl grad always vanishes.  But I still can't locate
where your argument goes wrong.  Maybe I'll look at it once more.