"Chols" <NOSPAM@NOMESCRIBAS.JARL> wrote in message
news:40898aab$1_2@news.arrakis.es...
>     Hi everybody, long time no see.
>
>     I've recently come back to Judo after some time off due to change of
> residence and a hard time at work. I am now at the Bushidokwai club here
in
> Madrid, Spain. These people train very differently to what I was used to.
> For instance, they do A LOT of ne waza, and this has given me the
> opportunity to practice some techniques that I didn't quite master when I
> should have. So, here comes a little question for you.
>     It seem to be impossible for me to choke or even immobilize anyone
using
> Shangaku (Shankaku?) gatame technique. I think the approach I take is
> correct. When my opponent adopts a defensive face down position in ne
waza,
> I pull him towards me and then "insert" one foot between his body and one
> arm, and insert the knee of my other leg beside his neck trying to make a
> triangle hold. The problem is that when I roll to the side (I tried both
> sides) I find my leg is not quite controlling his neck, so the legs have a
> difficult time coming together. What am I doing wrong? Can someone please
> describe this hold/choke to me? Thank you very much.
>
>     I hope there is still someone lurking in the darkness of this once
> thriving newsgroup. Regards.
>
>         Chols.
>

Some judoka, when attempting Sangakujime, pull their legs towards their
self, creating a slight gap between the legs. The choke can be more
effective if the legs are pushed away a little, allowing the thighs to
become closer on the neck. Pulling on the arm can also help the legs "bed
into" the correct position on your opponents the neck.

It is much easier to demonstrate than it is to describe.

Kenny



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