Re: Why do chinks hate japs and not brits?
in article 41b24617.7524189@news, Michil$(D??(Bn at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on
12/5/04 8:53 AM:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 05:04:33 +0900, Ernest Schaal
> <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>> in article 41b202f9.12494155@news, Michil$(D??(Bn at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on
>> 12/5/04 3:48 AM:
>>
>>> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:46:15 +0900, Ernest Schaal
>>> <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote:
>>>
>>>> in article 41b1635a.14925071@news, Michiln at micheil@shaw.ca wrote on
>>>> 12/4/04 4:23 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> I disagree. I'm a native Scot who lives in Vancouver and I would say
>>>>> that Canada is a lot more civilized than the US which is composed of
>>>>> former German and *nglish redneck peasantry like George Wanker Bush.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just over a million Americans have chosen to live in Canada. I think
>>>>> that must mean something as Canada is a tough country to get into
>>>>> unless you have money, a good education and qualifications the country
>>>>> wants. It's certainly not interested in people whose resumes speak
>>>>> warmly of packing groceries at Safeway. It also has a surfeit of
>>>>> lawyers, unless you're in the F. Lee Bailey class and can afford to
>>>>> keep a Lear sitting in your driveway, turbines on low power in case an
>>>>> ambulance screams past...
>>>>>
>>>>> Michiln
>>>>
>>>> I realize that you have issues with America, both as an Brit and as a
>>>> resident of Canada, but those issues seem to be due more to jealously than
>>>> anything else.
>>>
>>> I have in fact had two opportunities to become American and rejected
>>> both. Jealousy is not the problem - your culture simply have nothing
>>> to offer that I want and much I depise.
>>>
>>> In fact, I find that one of the most ludicrous suggestions I've read
>>> on Usenet. As a Scot, I'm accustomned to Americans telling me they
>>> wish they were Scottish. The idea of wanting to be American is a joke!
>>
>> Funny, I never wanted to be Scottish. The thought just never entered my
>> mind. A lot of people want to be Americans, more than America is willing to
>> accept.
>
> With a name like Schaal, who's surprised? I imagine your relatives
> were hoping to be Argentinian or Paraguayan after WWII. Like Adolf
> Eichmann.
>
>>>> Canada is not a bad place to live. In many ways, Vancouver is like the
>>>> Seattle area, and Toronto reminds me of cities in cities in the industrial
>>>> Northeast. On the other hand, it is not a major player when it comes to the
>>>> arts, or to finance, or to political power, and that seems to bother some
>>>> Canadians.
>>>>
>>>> Over the decades I have followed Canadian news because I found it
>>>> interesting how they adjust, or don't adjust, to being next to a much more
>>>> powerful neighbor and because life in Canada doesn't seem that radically
>>>> different from that in the States. I have found the partisan politics
>>>> interesting, the deep discord and bitterness existing between the different
>>>> regions, and the general dislike of Ontario (and the central government) by
>>>> nearly all the other providences. I have followed the problems they had
>>>> with
>>>> the migration of Asians and minorities to Canada, and I have followed the
>>>> problems remaining with living with the indigenous people of Canada.
>>>> Therefore, spare me the myth of a Canadian utopia or Canada being more
>>>> "civilized" than the US.
>>>
>>> You've obviously taken a profound interest in Canada when you don't
>>> even know that the Canadian equivalent of states are called
>>> "Provinces" and not "Providences".
>>
>> So I had a typo. This is the USENET. Things are written quickly.
>
> Wenn Englisch zu sprechen, ein Problem f$(D??(Br Sie ist, ich kann Deutsch,
> den ich von einem Lehrer in der Schule, die ein Absolvent der
> Heidelberg Universitt war, und danach unterrichtet wurde, ich
> verbrachte in Berlin irgendeine Zeit und war fhig, meinen
> umgangssprachlichen Deutschen noch mehr zu verbessern.
>
> (If speaking English is a problem for you, I speak German which I
> learned in school from a teacher who was a graduate of the University
> of Heidelberg and after that I spent some time in Berlin and was able
> to improve my colloquial German even more.)
>
>>
>> Yes, I have had a continuing interest in Canada, mainly because they are so
>> like America in many ways, but different. Particularly interesting was
>> watching the internal politics and how they react to living to a more
>> powerful, more famous neighbor.
>>
>> One reaction is paranoia, including a best selling novel a few years ago a
>> US president invading Canada and making Canada the fifty-first state.
>
> Hardly paranoia - I happen to be a professional writer myself and I
> remember reading the book and it was as interesting as say, a Nazi
> invasion of Britain or the US. That hardly makes it paranoid - as I
> recollect, the reviews described it as excellent, so I bought it.
>>
>>> I don't know how old you are - 17, 18? - but I don't think I'll be
>>> relying on you for any future move I may make. I certainly won't be
>>> moving to your unpleasant, obnoxious, power-crazed. thieving, bullying
>>> rogue state which executes children and refuses to provide its
>>> citizens with decent universal healthcare.
>>>
>>> The US is where Europe dumped its white trash. It sure shows.
>>
>> You hatred of America is obvious, but I am not convinced it is not based
>> upon your own lack of self esteem and your helplessness in living in a world
>> where your neighbor is so much more important to the world than you. As for
>> your insults of America, thank you for proving that not all Canadians are
>> civilized people.
>>
> Sie Sind deutsch, sind Sie nicht? Sie machen germanische Fehler, wenn
> Sie Englisch schreiben. Deutsche umfassen 35% aller Amerikaner; die
> gr$(D??(Bte ethnische Gruppe um die Vereinigten Staaten. Nat$(D??(Brlich macht
> dies Leute nervs, besonders jene, die in Kanada und Mexiko wohnen.
> Sie beunruhigen, da$(D??(B die Vereinigten Staaten Faschisten drehen werden
> und anfangen, wie wie das dritte Reich zu handeln.
>
> Ich bin sicher, da$(D??(B Hitler immer noch in der deutschen Psyche lebt!
>
> (You are German, aren't you? You make German errors when writing
> English. Germans comprise 35% of all Americans; the largest ethnic
> group in the United States. Naturally this makes people nervous,
> especially those who live in Canada and Mexico. They worry that the
> United States will turn fascist and begin to act like like the Third
> Reich.
>
> I am sure that Hitler still lives in the German psyche!)
>
> Michil$(D??(Bn
My goodness, you are a bigot. What makes you think that all German-Americans
supported Hitler, or even most of them?
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