Re: Gradient of potential function of dynamic field
I have just begun to read the postings on this group and wonder if
there exists a moderated group on electrodynamics.
Having read Feynmann (and listened to him) I grabbed Carver Mead's
Collective
Electrodynamics and was duly impressed with the 4 vector wave
presentation.
What I would like are more sample computation from which to
extrapolate and fool
around with some ideas about the possibility of NON-gauge invariance
and reinvention of an ether.
A R
"Mark Palenik" <markpalenik@wideopenwest.com> wrote in message news:<Oa6dnTGELY-gRMXdRVn_iw@wideopenwest.com>...
> "Bilge" <dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnc54m9t.985.dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net...
> > Sergey Karavashkin:
> > >dubious@radioactivex.lebesque-al.net (Bilge) wrote in message news:
>
> > >>
> > >> \nabla x (\nabla\Phi) = e_ijk \nabla_i\nabla_j\Phi
> > >>
> > >> = \nabla_i\nabla_j\Phi - \nabla_j\nabla_i\Phi
> > >>
> > >> = (\nabla_i\nabla_j - \nabla_j\nabla_i)\Phi
> > >>
> > >> = 0
> > >>
> > >> Tell me. What's next on the selflab agenda? Do you plan to show that
> > >> sin^2 + cos^2 != 1 for "dynamic fields"?
> > >
> > >Dear Bilge,
> > >
> > >For people defending not the objective truth but interests of definite
> > >school, and defending by any price, our works really are only an
> > >irritant.
> >
> > It's a mathemaical identity, sergey. Rather than engage in a verbose
> > diatribe and rant about me being an irritant, why don't you simply
> > point out how that identity doesn't follow from the definitions of
> > the gradient and curl. Anything else is just a smokescreen.
> >
>
> I almost replied pointing out that for a nonconservative vector field, the
> curl wouldn't be zero, but after reading Franz post, I see that Sergey
> claims curl(grad(phi)) can not equal zero, which is ridiculous, since the
> vector field is grad(f(x,y,z)), which immediately means it's conservative.
> By no stretch of the imagination is what he's stating possible, regardless
> of how physics works.
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