"Rindler Sigurd" <srindler@da2.so-net.ne.jp> wrote in message news:<3eeedca9$1_7@news.uncensored-news.com>...

> > If the place was a public road and she was illegally parking, the cop
> > had an official right to question her, and she had an obligation to
> > answer it. Whereas, the place is a private property, someone else's
> > parking lot, so the cop didn't have any right to interfere with her
> > trying to leave the place.
> 
> 
> If she had refused to answer, he would have her invieted to follow him to
> the police box.

She always has a right to refuse to answer, so the cop can't do that,
I think.

> If the private property was a house or an
> > office that is completely enclosed by walls or something, she would
> > have been accused as trespass, but in this country, such a place like
> > a parking lot which is easy to get in by anyone, and only
> > distinguished by white painted lines on ground is not considered as a
> > subject of trespass. As I told before, occupying someone's parking lot
> > is a private trouble with the owner.
> 
> 
> Yes, I agree. If you park your car in my parking lot, I still have the right
> to call the police to have your car removed, and they have the right to
> sanction the towing of your vehicle.

Actually although you call police, they won't tow it away. They won't
do such a civilian business. You have to call a civilian towing guy to
tow it away. That means you have to pay the bill of towing by
yourself. But surely when you find the owner of the car, you have a
right to request him to pay the money you had paid already. Also I
think you have a right to ask him to pay for some charges for his
occupying your parking space.

> > > The cops and
> > > > the owner of the honorary white Tokyoite's super high-class parking
> > > > lot had no legal right to interfere with her after she apologized
> > > > about her occupation of his super high-class honorary white's parking
> > > > lot, but they illegally obstructed her to move.
> 
> 
> Yes, he was wrong on this one.
> But what if the guy arrived at his lot one hours before her? I'd park my car
> just behind hers to make my point, and in the meantime I could call the
> police for assistance. Actually, I wouldn't make such a fuss... unless it is
> a notorious free-parker who has done it several times.

I think police usually don't come if it's such a parking lot trouble,
even though you call it. And they usually inform you to put a piece of
notice written like "Hey moron, don't park here, here is mine" between
the windshield and the wiper. When I called police several years ago,
they said so and they never come. Also they informed me that never
scratch, kick or damage the car because it's going to be the real
crime.
 
> 
> > Hey who has such a right of calling police about such a private issue?
> > Does a man have a right to call police if he finds his wife sleeping
> > with other man?
> 
> 
> Not in this case, but if some students opposite my house hold very noisy
> beer parties at 3 am with open windows and heavy metal music, I do call the
> police. This is much more effective than going over there and making
> additional noise. And on the next day I report it to the landlord of the
> house. It always worked beautifully...:-)

I think making big noise in midnight would violate some law, and I
think that kind of thing is different from this parking lot case.


> > Calling police without realizing any violation is a false accusation
> > and a calumny. And blocking her way is a Taiho Kankin Zai(illegal
> > arrest and confinement) in this country. The honorary white Tokyoite
> > had no right to forcibly block up her way.
> >
> 
> 
> Yes, I believe so too (if the reports on this case are true).
> BTW, is there anything like a "citizen arest".
> If I catch somebody breaking a public phone, spraying graffito onto my
> garage wall, etc., can I grab the gentleman, hold (confine) him, until the
> police arrives? 

Yes, surely you can arrest him becuase spraying graffiti is an obvious
violation "Kibutsu Kison Zai(damage to property)". In Japan the
"citizen arrest" is authorized so you can confine him but you have to
call an authority(usually police) as soon as possible then hand him
over to them.

> Or do I have the right to walk him to the next koban (maybe
> not on his ears)?

Yes, you have. Spraying graffiti is a real crime so I think you can.
But for a slight violation like a traffic offence, you should not do,
I think.
 
> 
> > I think he should be sentenced at least a year by the charge of
> > illegal arrest and confinement toward the woman.
> 
> 
> Wow, that's very severe considering that killing your kid could get you as
> littel as 4 years!
> And how do we punish the police grabber? Half a year plus 20 slaps across
> the face a la Singaporean style...

But in most cases in Japan, such kind of suspects are actually not
imprisoned, and they usually(always) get suspended sentences. But
those who killed kids would be actually imprisoned.