Kevin Wayne Williams wrote:
> Kevin Gowen wrote:
> 
>> Kevin Wayne Williams wrote:
>>
>>> In general, most governments are criminal organizations bent on
>>> extracting the maximum economic value from the many for the benefit of
>>> the privileged few. The recent trend towards relatively benign
>>> governments that at least ostensibly work towards the benefit of the
>>> populace is a relatively modern phenomenon largely restricted to Western
>>> countries. It is probably short-lived, and unlikely to survive another
>>> century. The more slowly we build the infrastructure for oppression and
>>> surveillance, the more slowly it will once again take hold.
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>>
>>
>> Strange statements in light of your advocacy of communism.
> 
> Would you care to tell me when I advocated communism? You seem to have 
> started this accusation about the time when we were debating the merits 
> of having the government fund itself from stealing from the rich as 
> opposed to stealing from the dead, and I just can't see the link to 
> communism from there.

Abolition of rights of inheritance and compulsory government education 
immediately spring to mind. These are enumerated measures found in The 
Communist Manifesto.

>>> Imagine what life would be like if Ashcroft had found omnipresent
>>> surveillance systems pre-installed. Then imagine what it would be like
>>> if he was a genuinely evil man instead of merely being a superstitious
>>> bigot.
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>> OMG WTF HE BELIEVES IN GOD SO HE MUST BE A BIGOT LOL!!11!!!one!
> 
> No, but it does makes him superstitious. Supporting constitutional 
> amendments restricting homosexual's right to contract is what makes him 
> a  bigot.

There is your problem. It is false to say that opposition to same-sex 
marriage can be based upon bigotry and nothing else.

>> Maybe you'd like to compare his body count to Janet Reno's.
> 
> What makes you think I liked Reno?

I never said that I thought that.

-- 
Kevin
"This is the best election night in history."--Democratic National 
Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe, Nov. 2, 2004, just before 8 p.m. EST