"Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message 
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> in article 2tm6vbF211ck1U1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
> wrote on 10/20/04 1:13 PM:
>
>> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>> news:BD9BC081.29A25%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp...
>>> in article 2tkihtF1u6qi4U1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
>>> wrote on 10/19/04 10:18 PM:
>>>
>>>> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>>>> news:BD9B121F.298FB%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp...
>>>>> in article 2tk55uF215ktfU1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
>>>>> wrote on 10/19/04 6:30 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>>>>>> One of the reasons why Japanese scholars of modern history use the
>>>>>> term "Nanking Incident" would be that the debate is included a question
>>>>>> whether or not the "Rape" really took place.  If they use the term "Rape
>>>>>> of Nanking"you like, then it follows that they have to argue on the
>>>>>> assumption that the "Rape" really happened.  As a scholar they are
>>>>>> unwilling to deal with such an unexamined conviction.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Rape of Nanking didn't happen? I suppose you believe the Holocaust
>>>>> didn't happen either? This act of denial is telling, as telling as the
>>>>> denial of the Holocaust by neo-Nazis.
>>>>
>>>> I have already said that my position is close to Professor Hata's one.
>>>> I estimate the number of the Chinese victims at 40,000-50,000. If you
>>>> still suppose I believe the incident didn't happen, I doubt about your
>>>> ability of English. My mother used to say "Don't tell a lie, Masayuki".
>>>
>>> Okay, so you estimate the number of Chinese victims at 40,000-50,000, so why
>>> do you say: "One of the reasons why Japanese scholars of modern history use
>>> the term "Nanking Incident" would be that the debate is included a question
>>> whether or not the "Rape" really took place."
>>>
>>> Do you think the rape occurred? Do you doubt that the Japanese military
>>> committed atrocities? Do you think the 40,000-50,000 deaths were justified?
>>>
>>> There seems to be a conflict between your most recent statement and that of
>>> the time before. I am not trying to trick you, instead I am trying to get
>>> you to clarify your remarks.
>>>
>>> By the way, I doubt the high numbers of the Chinese estimates and the real
>>> low numbers of the Japanese apologists. I don't doubt that rape and murder
>>> was used as a military tactic to scare other Chinese cities into surrender.
>>
>> http://www.wellesley.edu/Polisci/wj/China/Nanjing/nanjing4.html
>
> So you doubt that the Rape of Nanking occurred?
>
>>
>>>>>>> If I had read more books in Japanese would it mean that your comments
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> sound a tad less bigoted or more bigoted? If so, why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever you may say, it is just a description, which means you have
>>>>>> not given an explanation.  I don't think I'm bigoted.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no doubt that you believe you are not bigoted. You simply feel
>>>>> superior to the Chinese
>>>>
>>>> No. I like Chinese people and things, such as old poems, foods,
>>>
>>> I judged you a bigot because of your general remarks about the Chinese
>>> people as over-emotional, over-political, and having a tendency to
>>> exaggerate. I asked for clarification if you really believed that, and you
>>> affirmed that you did feel that way. Are you willing to admit that your
>>> statements were a tad extreme and don't really reflect your true opinion of
>>> the Chinese people?
>>
>> I bet you that you are more emotional and political than Chinese,
>> Mr. Schaal.
>
> Wow, I gather you really are the bigot that your statements make you out to
> be.
>
>
>>>>> because they are so "political" and "emotional" and
>>>>> they "prefer exaggerations." I am sure the average Nazi didn't feel bigoted
>>>>> either.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally, I don't see a direct connection between my reading habits and
>>>>>>> your apparent racism and bigotry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Racism and bigotry?  Prove.
>>>>>
>>>>> You proved it with your own words.
>>>>
>>>> Did such a defense skill have a swift effect in courtroom?
>>>
>>> My lawyer training did help in analyzing in flaws in arguments.
>>
>> Saying something to you is so vain.
>
> I am sure that you thought that you were being cute in criticizing me for
> being a lawyer, but that training is one of the things that helped me see
> through your arguments to the bigotry on which it is based.
>
> The more you write the more you prove that my opinion about you is correct.

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Masayuki