"Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message 
news:BD988EAF.2968C%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp...
> in article 2tf2ecF1v20j3U1@uni-berlin.de, m.yoshida at masa@yahoo.co.jp
> wrote on 10/17/04 8:13 PM:
>
>> "Ernest Schaal" <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote in message
>> news:BD980846.29630%eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp...
>>> in article cksben$bf3$2@news.Stanford.EDU, mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net at
>>> mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net wrote on 10/17/04 8:39 AM:
>>>
>>>> Ernest Schaal <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote:
>>>>> in article ckrb14$l1e$1@news.Stanford.EDU, mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net at
>>>>> mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net wrote on 10/16/04 11:25 PM:
>>>>
>>>>>> Ernest Schaal <eschaal@max.hi-ho.ne.jp> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I must admit to reservations about the author (a gaijin scholar working
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Japanese university) since he parrots the language of Japanese
>>>>>>> "scholars,"
>>>>>>> who call it an "incident" instead of a "rape".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that's simply the Japanese use of the word "jiken". While not
>>>>>> unambiguous, it does NOT imply a trivial matter. They use it to describe
>>>>>> (eg) the Sarin Gas attacks in Tokyou, and assuredly they do not think
>>>>>> lightly of the "Sarin Jiken".
>>>>> The author in question was not Japanese and was writing in English.
>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, the use of the word "incident" instead of "rape" is telling.
>>>>
>>>> Not if he's describing it from the standpoints of Japan and China which
>>>> are, after all, the 2 nations most immediately concerned.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Again, Mike, the author was writing in English. As for China and Japan,
>>> China considers it a rape/massacre/war crime and Japan considers it, as Kaz
>>> once wrote, being "gentle" with China.
>>
>> Mr. Schaal, can you tell what are the terms "Rape" in English and
>> "Jiken"in Japanese called by in Chinese?  You seem to be more familiar
>> with Chinese matters than I.
>>
>> Masayuki
>
> Masayuki,
>
> Are you denying that the Chinese consider the Japanese actions to be rape,
> massacre, and war crimes?

I will answer your question after you answer my question, okay?

> Do you really believe that the Chinese think the Japanese Army was "gentle"
> with them?

I will answer the above question after I get your answer, okay Mr. Ernest?

Masayuki