Declan Murphy wrote:

> Rafael Caetano wrote:
(...)
>> I'm not much into cachaca/aguardente/pinga but I know that Velho 
>> Barreiro is certainly low-end. I liked one Nega Fulo, but it's pretty 
>> expensive. Like 1000 yen. For that price you can buy 2 bottles of 
>> regular Chilean wine.
> 
> 
> Well Velho Barreiro wasn't particularly cheap. Perhaps around 980 a 
> bottle. 

I see. But I should have made clearer that I was talking about Brazilian 
prices. Velho Barreiro costs about R$3 or $4 (100~150 yen) while Nega 
Fulo must be R$30 or more.
The shipping cost must add a lot to the Japanese price.

> I didn't buy it at the Brazilian supermarket or anything, just 
> picked it up off the shelves at Sugita as a curiosity. I guess if I 
> hunted around it might be cheaper, but I didn't see any other cane 
> spirits on the shelves so that is what picked out. I'll have a look for 
> this Nega Fulo next time I shop.

I had forgotten about Ypioca. It's much better than Velho Barreiro and 
"only" twice the price. It's probably easier to find than Nega Fulo.

> BTW I wasn't aware that there was any kind of cachaca other than 
> low-end? Perhaps what I read is out of date, but in Brazil isn't cachaca 
> usually 70-something% alcohol, dirt cheap, and usually unavailable in 
> the better bars of town?

40% alcohol. It is quite cheap, but so is beer. Cachaca does have a 
stronger "wino" connotation, but that depends on the region.
There is aged cachaca, fruit- and honey-flavoured cachaca, etc.

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Rafael Caetano