Michael Cash <mikecash@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message news:<m51qpvoiu6n05l3fiv980kp3t2qqpv7ibu@4ax.com>...
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:03:48 GMT, Thomas Tucker
> <Thomas_E_Tucker2003@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
> with:
> 
> >Michael Cash wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:47:30 +0200, "Haluk" <yokoolebiri@spam.net>
> >> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
> >>
> >> >"Michael Cash" <mikecash@sunfield.ne.jp>, haber iletisinde sunlari
> >> >yazdi:mvinpv0la9jm8r9vttkbmvtm50cn81a6n1@4ax.com...
>  
> >> >> With all the fuss over p2p services, I think that if there were truly
> >> >> a service out there with 14 or 15 million users online we would have
> >> >> heard about it in the news before now. I suspect that what they
> >> >> actually do is use some proprietary software to connect to the various
> >> >> free p2p networks.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Most probably. Because "unlimited content, share nothing" got me thinkin...
> >> >Besides if no one shares, what's the point of becoming member to a
> >> >14-million-member network?
> >>
> >> Which is the reason I quit Kazaa. It turned into a network full of
> >> leeches.
> >>
> >> These days I like WinMX. Best of all, I like being able to use MX Moni
> >> to prevent leeches from downloading from me.
> >
> >WinMX was the reason I tried out Kazaa Lite. WinMX used to be pretty useful but
> >the last year or so I used it everything I searched for was qued forever and
> >nothing was actually available. Also the paid shills on usenet seemed to have
> >much more of in interest in promoting a semi-useless service than actually
> >addressing questions re the program. Has WinMX improved at all or is evereything
> >still coming up as forever qued ?
> 
> I have had tremendous success with WinMX. The secret is patience,
> persistence, and deleting incompletes which have seen no action in a
> week or so. Also, it makes quite a difference if you have a primary
> connection instead of a secondary connection.
> 
> If you can maintain a connection and keep the program running not for
> a matter of several hours, but for several *days*, then you will find
> that you will have quite a bit of success with WinMX.
> 
> Another thing to be aware of is that lots of the folks who have the
> most files to share really do not fucking care for leeches and will
> cancel your download in a heartbeat. With me, for example, a potential
> downloader can choose among 10,000 or so files. But he had damned well
> better be sharing over 100, have 3 or more upload slots, and be able
> to maintain a bare minimum of 3kbs/sec on the transfer. I normally
> leave all that to MX Moni, but sometimes I go through and manually do
> a whois on people downloading from me. If I find that their stash of
> shared files consists almost entirely of their incomplete downloads, I
> cut them off just on general principles.
> 
> One thing that I find irritating is to have a couple hundred megs of a
> six or seven hundred meg file downloaded, to repeatedly queue up on a
> rather large number of sources, to actually connect multiple
> times...and still never see my file get any bigger. What has happened,
> of course, is that the original person who shared the file removed it
> from his shared list before a full copy of it got out and everybody is
> just passing around the same partial file forever and ever.
> 
> MX Moni has a check box where you can choose to automatically ignore
> users whose names include double-byte characters. At first I wondered
> why this was, then as I have gained experience of dealing with
> Japanese users of WinMX I have started to see why. They can be some
> irritating bastards to share with. What they love to do is open up a
> single upload slot and then go browsing the files of people who queue
> up on them. If they see something they like, they will message you to
> negotiate a direct exchange. If they don't see something they like,
> you can forget about ever getting a download from them. Some others
> like to open up about a hundred or so slots (in order to attract more
> people to queue up, you see), and then do the same thing. If you *do*
> manage to wiggle your way up their queue, you will find that you get a
> download speed on the order of 0.03kb/sec. Just a single mp3 will end
> up taking you on the order of 30 hours or more. Not all of them are
> like that, of course, but enough of them that I have often been
> tempted to check the little box and exclude them from downloading from
> me. Technically, I suppose, they're not leeches. But for all practical
> purposes, they are.
> 
> And your remarks about what is available on Kazaa were spot on.
> Another reason I left. So what if there are 90 million files
> available? 88 million of them are Brittany Spears.


Yeah see... I just use a dial up to check out a few tunes once in a
while or try to hunt down an interesting ebook. The thought of keeping
a connection for 30 hrs. or anything like that isn't an option. Like I
said WINMX was the P2P I used for a couple of years and I was very
happy with the way it worked but about a year and a half ago (or
something like that) they came out with a new version and all of the
sudden nothing was available and everything (I mean EVERYTHING) was
qued seemingly forever. That's one problem I haven't run into on
Kazaalite. My only beef with Kazaalite is the availability and
selection of anything unusual. I share a couple of thousand files of
weird shit that are being downloaded from me pretty much constantly
and I almost never have any trouble connecting once I've found a file
I want. The problem is finding anything I really want.

I may just try out WINMX again if the queing issue has been sorted
out. Is it still free of spy and adware?