Ernest Schaal wrote:

>> Are incarceration, the death penalty and fines the only alternatives
>> for the legal system, Ernest? You can do better than that.

> The alternatives you have suggested almost guarantee a return to the lawlessness of earlier times. Alternatives to incarceration, the death penalty and fines only work if the State can threaten the features you want to eliminate.

Then we are done. You refuse to listen, and to consider other real
world possibilities which exist in the US legal system, such as civil
trial.

> Support of the system won't mean that knowledge of the human condition would improve sufficiently to allow to use mental health facilities to replace prisons in our lifetime, or the lifetime of our children, or the lifetime of our grandchildren.

Pessimism like yours is why others do not attempt what would be
possible had they tried. I thought you worked with researchers.