necoandjeff wrote:
> Brett Robson wrote:
> 
>>necoandjeff wrote:
>>
>>>Brett Robson wrote:
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>>>>necoandjeff wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>>Brett Robson wrote:
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>>>>>>necoandjeff wrote:
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>>>>>>>Atheism isn't much more common in Japan than it is in the U.S.
>>>>>>>They call themselves Buddhist and Shinto because they draw their
>>>>>>>traditions from both. Most people are "spiritual" in the sense
>>>>>>>that they believe in something more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Total crap. Japanese have some vague idea about people being
>>>>>>spirits after they die, and that's it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, what's the total crap part? Are people who believe that they
>>>>>are spirits after they die atheists? Damn.
>>>>
>>>>What I said is clearly written above.
>>>
>>>
>>>If you mean that the text renders clearly on my monitor you are
>>>right.
>>
>>You learnt the "if you mean ... then ..." construct from Gowen,
>>right?
> 
> 
> Oh, you got me. Thirty six years of speaking English (well, more like thirty
> four) and I hadn't come across that construction until Kevin Gowen.

Lame attempts at sarcasm are typical of Gowen as well. Inpsite of 
whichever bit of your constitution that guarrantees free speech 
Americans shouldn't attempt sarcasm.

So for the last 34 years you've had to make up arguments so you 
can refute them. Blaming Gowen would have been a better idea.

> 
>>Are you fat too?
> 
> 
> As a matter of fact I recently lost enough weight to get back down to the
> weight I was in college. Quite trim actually. Thanks for asking.

See above comment on sarcasm.

> 
> And the middle kanji is "shin" not "kami." There is a subtle distinction
> that is actually quite important. Or do you suppose the word "seishin" for
> example is a Shinto term? In any event, mushinron is the Japanese equivalent
> of atheism and,

So we have a subtle distinction that doesn't matter because (as 
you assert) the words are "equivalent" anyway. Pure genius. "In 
any event" seems to mean "What I said is bullshit and completely 
contradicted by the fact that ...".


> 
> Go out and meet some actual people, learn what atheism really is, then we'll
> talk.
> 

"Really means" is what you say it means, which of course like 
most of the shit you've written above is completely irrelevant. 
Let dictionaries and accepted usage be damned. The meaning is 
what you say it is. You make the absurd assertion that Japanese 
are somehow spiritual just like Americans but then have to back 
that up with vague definitions and your (alledged) immense 
experience. On one hand you are trying to assert that Shinto is 
not a religion but the people that follow it are not aethists.

"Japanese have some vague idea about people being spirits after 
they die, and that's it.

Repeating myself does get boring, but that is the only way to 
deal with an idiot like you.

I hope you are good looking. It would be nice if you had one good 
feature.