Kevin Gowen wrote:
> necoandjeff wrote:
>> Kevin Gowen wrote:
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>>> necoandjeff wrote:
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>>>> Kevin Gowen wrote:
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>>>>> necoandjeff wrote:
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>>>>>> The thing I find most amusing about this whole religious right
>>>>>> phenomenon is that, if Jesus were alive today he would be the
>>>>>> biggest most flaming liberal in the country.
>>>>>
>>>>> Impossible. He believed in God and prayed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you think liberals don't believe in God or pray, you're more out
>>>> of touch than I thought.
>>>
>>> Hey, I am just going by your comments that describe those who
>>> believe in God as idiots. At any rate, what is out of touch is
>>> assigning a 20th century sociopolitical ideology to someone who
>>> lived 2000 years ago.
>>
>>
>> You think that liberal versus conservative is a concept that wasn't
>> developed until the 20th century? Wow.
>
> Why are you wowing? What is called "liberalism" today is certainly a
> 20th century concept. It would be unrecognizable to Locke, Smith, or
> Hume. "Liberal" versus "conservative" is very much a 20th century
> phenomenon. Note that this is different from "X political party" vs.
> "Y political party".
>
> What do you think were the previous equivalents of the post-WWII
> sociopolitical ideology that refers to itself as
> "liberalism/progressivism", and who were some of the movement's
> notable figures?
>
> I know that in the imagination of many, liberal vs. conservatism is a
> sweeping and eternal battle throughout the course of human history,
> but this simply isn't the case.

Even confining it to this country you can go back to the 18th century battle
of Jefferson vs. Hamilton.