> I read you're a lawyer, and a tough debater, do you consider this 
> discussion representative of your debating skills Kevin ?

silly me, I get it now !
You see this discussion as an attack, and so you shoot away without 
thinking, like a tiger, a striped jungle killing predator.
No debate, just instinct, heh ?  Does it work in the legal business as good 
as it seems to work in international politics ?