Tore, what's the effect of a smaller CCD sensor size?


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"Tore Lund" <tl18@next.online.no> wrote in message
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> Smoothy wrote:
> >> You know, if this were objectively true, everyone would buy the two
> >> Canons and no one the two Nikons.  Still, quite a few people buy the
> >> Nikons, even though the Canons provide much more flexibility.
> >
> > There could be other reasons for this, like the 2100 and 3100 being much
> > smaller and
> > lighter than the A60 and A70, and some other considerations like battery
> > charger or
> > Scene Modes which is usefull for beginners and...
> > You know, not everyone is looking only for picture quality.      ;)
>
> Exactly, and some confuse manual controls with quality - reviewers in
> particular.
>
> First of all, I am not much interested in the Nikon 2100.  It has a
> smaller sensor than the other cameras under consideration, so there is
> reason to expect a somewhat shabbier quality.
>
> > Consider these two pictures:
> > http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_reviews/a40/samples/IMG_0139.JPG
> >
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/nikon2100/samples/DSCN0014.JPG
> > Do you notice the grains on the boat bodies in 2100?
>
> Sorry, I don't have much of an eye for "grain" or "noise", and the two
> images are so different that I find them hard to compare.
>
> While we're on the topic of "Sail Honeymoon", what do you think about
> the sharpness of the writing on that board in this image:
>
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/a70/samples/IMG_8565.JPG
>
> > or these two:
> > http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_reviews/a40/samples/IMG_0161.JPG
> >
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/nikon2100/samples/DSCN0001.JPG
> > Can you see the clearness of the building bricks in A40?
> >
> > (the 1st & 3rd ones are taken by A40, for which A60 is a replacement,
> and I
> > don't think its picture quality is better than A60).
>
> It seems to me that the Nikon image is blurred all over.  Whether that's
> due to Steve shaking the camera or some autofocus bug, it does not
> appear to be a typical trait of this camera.  There are some really
> clear images by the 2100 at Imaging Resource (especially the "far" shots
> of the house).
>
> Moreover, the chimney in the Canon shot is seriously bent.  This is also
> the case in the corresponding image by the A300.
>
> > or these ones:
> > http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/A70/FULLRES/A70INFP1.HTM
> > http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/CP3100/FULLRES/CP31INFFP3.HTM
> > Look how noisy the wall behind her, and her face are.
>
> Honestly, I am surprised that you find them so different.  What I do see
> is the characteristic softness of the A70, but even this could simply be
> due to less in-camera sharpening.
>
> Bed time here, so I leave this reply somewhat unfinished.  I'll think
> more about it in the morning.  What I had hoped to find is that one or
> the other camera is definitely superior for landscape shots, but I have
> seen little conclusive proof one way or the other so far.
> --
>     Tore
>