"DBM" <dbmacpherson@uq.net.au> wrote:
> In the shot I based my height calculations on, Rei-1's head comes up
> to about Gendo's belt area, something which the Chibi-Rei shown in
> your illustration would NOT be able to do!  The Chibi-Rei in your
> image is at least another 'head' size smaller than the Rei-1 I'm
> referring to, & going by growth charts, would be much smaller/younger.

In my mind I see Naoko bending over almost double to talk to Rei I right
before she kills him! Whatever the height, We see Rei I when she was
around her 5th year.

> As I said earlier, Shinji is drawn at various 'ages' in NGE, & again,
> I wonder if there were specific 'cultural' advantages for that.  Or
> for that matter, if the sizes used were supposed to be him at some
> sort of 'milestone' in his life.

Mothers death, Fathers abandonment, yeah I'd say these are milestones. Not
very nice ones but events that would be rather memorable.

> Sorry, I'm not sure of the exact phrase, but there *IS* a celebration
> in Japan based on the age of children - something to do with
> celebrating 3 different ages (??? 3, 7, 9 ???) sorry, can't remember
> the exact details, if I can find it, I'll post it...

I do not remember any birthday celebrations in NGE. Or any kind of
traditional celebration.

> As far as Rei's age & sizing goes, as with other Anime productions, I
> wouldn't be surprised if continuity was 'compromised' in the story
> telling - I'm not sure if the existence of the 'Director's cut' is an
> example of this or not - I'll let you decide for yourself whether the
> saga of the last 2 TV episodes & subsequent movies fall into this
> category.

I don't see how anything in the story needs to be compromised at this
point.

> Then again, perhaps they were cashing in on some sort of '3 Fates'
> thing or even a reference to the Triple Goddess of Celtic mythology...
> That is, the Maid, the Mother, & the Old Crone - although here using
> Chibi-Rei as the innocence/naiveness of the Maid, Rei-2 as the
> maternal instinct (I will protect you) of the  Mother, & the wisdom
> and/or self-assertiveness of Rei-3 for the Old Crone.

You are thinking to much in the religious context. You really do need to
drop that. Rei I, Rei II and Rei III all had significant events in their
lives. Rei I was strangled, Rei II was mostly either injured or at school
and Rei III was apparently naked!

> Re Lillith's regeneration...  Was there any illustration of when Rei-2
> put the lance INTO Lillith?  Or for that matter any 'canon' about
> Lillith's state at the time?  It's just that Lillith DID regenerate
> when the Lance was removed, & I'd question if Gendo had the Lance put
> in Lillith to slow down any regeneration she was doing, regeneration
> that may have been 'prompted' by the attacks of the Angels.

Well we do know that Lilith didn't have legs before hand. There's an image
somewhere. Sorry but I am horrible when it comes to backing up my
statements. Anyhow Gendo did have Rei put the Lance into Lilith. At the
end of one episode you see her walking down a huge corridor with the
Lance. The next time you see the Lance is when Rei takes it back out of
Lilith.

> Re our form is limited by our minds - 'Before the Mind shapes the
> Body, the Body shapes the Mind' - this comes from an experiment
> conducted on baby chimps where the new-born chimp had a collar placed
> around it's neck that stopped it from seeing it's own body.  When the
> collar was eventually removed, the chimp was unable to co-ordinate
> it's own body - limbs etc, as it had grown up without any knowledge or
> appreciation of same in its 'world view'.

Yes but we are not talking about chimps or even real world physics. Very
similar and I'm sure the same experiment would even work in NGE but only
because the min would thus think that it is first shaped by the body. The
soul/mind in NGE shapes the body. Michael gave a very good example of this
too in reference to the scene in EoE when Rei III joined the body of
Lilith.

> Yui produces an AT Field in Unit 1 -  Is it because Unit 1 is
> producing the AT Field, at Yui's command?  That is, Yui herself cannot
> do it, but utilises the abilities of her new 'body'?

The ATF is the border OF the soul. As Yui's soul has been moved into Unit
01, Unit 01 now HAS an ATF. Before Yui moved in Unit 01 didn't have a soul
thus could not have a border to a soul meaning no ATF.

> Rei-3's 'regeneration' in EoE - another question, where did the extra
> bio-mass come from?  From bodily reserves, or was it assimilated from
> surrounding atmospheric material?  Or for that matter, from the hand
> that Gendo so kindly donated?

Well, as Gendo lost his arm in the process I think it's a fair bet she
just assimilated that!

> The more you go into NGE, the more questions there are.  And it kinds
> of irks me that there are so many unanswered questions & 'what ifs'
> about the show, let alone the cultural icons & references that I won't
> 'get' because they aren't an integral part of my own culture.

That's why we have been answering all of your questions right?

> When Lillith took on Rei's (Yui's?) aspect, was that because Lillith
> was becoming Rei, or because Rei was becoming Lillith?  Or because the
> two were merging together into a greater whole, symbolically changing
> their appearance as they did so?

Rei IS Lilith.

Before the cloning of Rei there was Lilith in Lilith's body. Then the body
cloned from Yui came along and the soul of Lilith was inserted into and it
was called Rei by Gendo.

> For that matter, the whole Yui-Lillith switch that creates 'Rei'.  If
> Lillith was a 'mother' herself, is it relevant that the only Human
> souls we KNOW to be part of EVA are both female, & mothers themselves?
> Could that be why Yui was absorbed 100% in one go?  Because Asuka's
> Unit 0, derived from Adam, wasn't 'wired' to have a 'gender change' in
> it's soul, & couldn't properly absorb Asuka's mother?

Yui had a %400 synch, not a %100. Further the use of "mother" and "father"
for Lilith and Adam is a loosely used term! They have no actually gender
that we can discern, gender is something that we either evolved into later
or were given when Lilith gave us life.

> Perhaps I'm reading too much into the traditional maleness of Adam, &
> that Kaworu was male, while Lillith, Yui & Rei are female?

Yes you are.
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