Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!onodera-news!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!f036.ac101.freebit.ne.JP!not-for-mail From: Michael Cash Newsgroups: alt.english.usage,alt.usage.english,sci.lang,sci.lang.japan,fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Looking for a word (maybe Japanese, not PC) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:17:26 +0900 Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <1725959d.0306180625.4527e23e@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: f036.ac101.freebit.ne.jp (43.244.101.36) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1056377846 26931265 43.244.101.36 (16 [51151]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:1443 On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:06:12 +0000 (UTC), jdolan@math-cl-n01.math.ucr.edu (James Dolan) belched the alphabet and kept on going with: >in article , ab wrote: > >|On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:25:41 -0700, Kernel Sandas wrote: >| >|> You are walking down the street and see a girl with a perfect body and >|> beautiful hair just ahead of you. You think she must be very good >|> looking and want to see her face. You think about hurrying on ahead and >|> sneaking a look back, or somehow making her turn round so you can see >|> her face. Anyway, somehow you manage to get a look at her face and it >|> turns out to be very plain or downright ugly. >|> >|> Someone once told me there was a word in Japanese for this situation. If >|> anyone knows the word or an english equivalent, please let me know. >| >|(This is close to what you described.) >| >|Main Entry: jo?lie laide >|Pronunciation: zho-lE-led >|Usage: foreign term >|Etymology: French >|: good-looking ugly woman : woman who is attractive though not >|conventionally pretty > > >seems more like a direct antonym. "she's pretty... no, wait, on >second thought..." vs. "she's ugly...no, wait, on second thought...". Sounds plausible enough. I've met some pretty ugly women in my time. Most of them were awful nice, though. -- Michael Cash "There was a time, Mr. Cash, when I believed you must be the most useless thing in the world. But that was before I read a Microsoft help file." Prof. Ernest T. Bass Mount Pilot College http://www.sunfield.ne.jp/~mike/