It seems to me I heard somewhere that mtfester@netscape.net wrote in
article <bfm2ic$j5a$1@news.Stanford.EDU>:

>In fj.life.in-japan Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:59:12 +0900, "John  ...

>>>And, since we're talking, the state of Israel dates from....

>> The rule of Jeroboam.

>I thought that was a rodent.

No, it's an oversized (104 oz.) wine bottle.  Two jeroboams equal one
methusaleh.
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Don
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