Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!taurus!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!c03.atl99.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!fe55.usenetserver.com.POSTED!6ed65d21!not-for-mail From: Raj Feridun Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: a thinking deficiency Sender: Raj Feridun Message-ID: References: <4172f062$0$28796$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> <4172f443$0$27855$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> <4181EADA.5030202@hotmail.com> <2ug7d1F291po5U3@uni-berlin.de> <9pr5o0hv8gqpudk5i1vjjqt5nceouimr50@4ax.com> <2ugfnjF291po5U9@uni-berlin.de> <2ugjgdF291po5U11@uni-berlin.de> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.646 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 67 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:32:49 EDT Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 14:32:50 +0900 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:20371 On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:26:52 -0400, Kevin Gowen wrote: >> These polls are conducted by phone and don't reflect/reach >> cellphone-carrying voters of the teen to mid 20s age range at all. I >> think it's quite dangerous to count them out this time around because >> they are mobilized as never before. >I love how the "cellphone voter" is being touted the past few weeks. >Whatever it takes to help you sleep at night. Now you're the one who sounds a little nervous, Kev. I just read the news, I don't make it up. >I see no evidence of youth mobilization, nor am I inclined to believe >that youngsters lean liberal. Indeed, the numbers suggest that the Roe >Effect is in force. >For example, this survey for "Rock The Vote" shows Bush leading Kerry by >four points: >http://appserv.pace.edu/emplibrary/pace_poll_102604.pdf >"New voters are religious. More than 4 in 10 (41%) attend religious >services at least once a week, and an additional 15% attend church once >or twice a month. Thirty-eight percent consider themselves "born-again" >or “evangelicals" (compared to 23% nationwide, according to Gallup). There you go with the polls again. I just said there is no way for pollsters to effectively reach cellphone only voters. >"Bush seems to be gaining ground among new voters as the campaign >proceeds. His support has climbed 8 points in a two-candidate race (from >40% in July to 48% now). Meanwhile, Kerry’s support has slipped 6 points >(from 50% in July to 44% today)." >http://tinyurl.com/43ojo was also a quaint article. >Like I said, don't hang your hat on new voters. You will lose. Like I said, unless you're Nostradamus you can bang on your chest all you like. Only Tuesday will tell. >> You must admit that cellphone usage has skyrocketed in the past 4 >> years and that it is especially popular among those voters who are not >> likely to be reached for polling in any other way. >Since I have no knowledge of the rate of cellphone usage over the past >four year or the demographic statistics of cellphone users, I must admit >nothing. Well, I'm sorry I credited you with enough basic intelligence to realize that the rate of cellphone usage has increased exponentially in the past 4 years not just here in Japan but in the US as well. My apologies on that. >> http://tinyurl.com/64r32 >> I would have to assume the winner gets the Presidency next January >> 20th. >I have not yet reached the constitutionally required age of 35 years. Well fortunately the candidates for President both have. As for you I wouldn't be surprised if you said you hadn't reached voting age period judging by the average maturity level of your posts to this group. Raj