Path: news.ccsf.jp!tomockey.ddo.jp!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!usenet.stanford.edu!unknown!not-for-mail From: mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Sheeple? Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 18:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Subtlties R'nt Us Lines: 37 Sender: scjmmod@haven.eyrie.org Message-ID: References: <22d0f500-8582-47be-a358-e49d9c08d79f@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: mtfester@netscape.net NNTP-Posting-Host: haven.eyrie.org X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1305077402 14743 166.84.7.159 (11 May 2011 01:30:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu User-Agent: tin/1.9.3-20080506 ("Dalintober") (UNIX) (Linux/2.6.35.4-xen3-U (i686)) Xref: news.ccsf.jp fj.life.in-japan:169931 chuckers wrote: > On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:22:03 PM UTC+9, mtfe...@netMAPSONscape.net wrote: > > The 2-Belo wrote: > > > We have a report from the fj.life.in-japan Dynamics Officer that chuckers has > > > exploded. Flight director confirms that: > > > > > >Apparently, nobody else will take him. Rumour has it that he tried to get > > > >his US citizenship back and they wouldn't let him have it. > > > > > Tee hee hee. They obviously remember the circumstances under which he renounced > > > it. > > You actually CAN renounce your US citizenship and retain it. The US > > recognizes the concept of renunciation under duress. Just make sure > > afterwards that you always enter the US on an American passport. Oh, and > > file tax returns. > But the US will also recognise that if you are renouncing based on a > full understanding of the implications of doing so and are doing it of > your own free will, you aren't going to be given your citizenship back. Yes, if you indicate that you want it. In other words, if, when the time had come, he had simply approached the US embassy and said "I am keeping my US citizenship", they would have been very helpful (this has happened to a couple friends.) > His copious TMI writings on that b(l)og thing of his made it perfectly > clear to world+dog that he knew what he was doing. Or, at least, made > it appear that he had thought it through and was doing it to "stick it > to the yellow man" in Japan and spit on the country that didn't treat > him with the respect he felt he deserved. Yes, well, Mr Ardwinkle telling the consulate he was willing to tank his citizenship to hope to get a drink at a bar is pretty amazingly stupid. And you'll note, the guy actually tried to talk him out of his stupidity. Mike