necoandjeff wrote:

> "John W." <worthj1970@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>necoandjeff wrote:
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>>>"John W." <worthj1970@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>necoandjeff wrote:
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>>>>>>Declan Murphy <declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>I need to come up with a few wet weather venues to take foreign
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>>>students
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>>>>>>>(all adults) to when in the Tokyo area. As Odaiba is increasingly on
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>>>the
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>>>>>>>itinerary, I was thinking perhaps to add the Maritime Museum
>>>>>>>http://www.funenokagakukan.or.jp
>>>>>>>to the list. Has anyone been there? Is it interesting etc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And any other suggestions?
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>>>>>>I liked the Ueno museums; for most artifacts, you can trace the
>>>>>>China -> Korea -> Japan transition nicely.
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>>>>>>And it's close to the zoo, in case the panda's still alive.
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>>>>>That zoo is horrible. The whole concept of zoos is horrible, but if you
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>>>want
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>>>>>to see one of the worst examples of this nasty human habit of locking
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> up
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>>>a
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>>>>>bunch of animals in small cramped quarters and treating them like shit
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>>>for
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>>>>>their own enjoyment and the enjoyment of their kids, go to the Ueno
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> zoo.
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>>>>I suggest you never visit the Himeji museum....
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>>>A museum? Why is that?
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>>For 'museum' insert 'zoo'.
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> From countless other examples of the treatment of animals that I ran across
> while living in Japan that don't even involve zoos, although I may be
> horrified at whatever they have at the Himeji zoo, I doubt that I would be
> surprised.

Just for contrast, there's a zoo north of Nagasaki that has all of the
animals living outdoors in relatively large, well-tended areas. Another
reason I like Kyuushuu (the attitudes, not just the zoo).

Dan