Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!onodera-news!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.arcor-online.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pppta13-496.ght.iadfw.NET!not-for-mail From: Maleki Newsgroups: sci.physics,de.sci.physik,fr.sci.physique,alt.sci.physics,fj.sci.physics Subject: Re: Salaries of US Scientists Drop Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:37:52 -0600 Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <3FC138AF.D30AEDFD@hate.spam.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pppta13-496.ght.iadfw.net (207.136.9.212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1069630547 62543302 207.136.9.212 (16 [20678]) User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.8.1 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.sci.physics:575 On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:46:07 -0800, Uncle Al wrote: > jsp wrote: >> >> During the past two years, the salaries of >> most scientists including physicists have decreased significantly. >> See >> http://www.jupiterscientific.org/sciinfo/sciencesalaries.html > > 1) Why do you need technical personnel, > 2) Why do you need senior technical personnel, > 3) Why do you need domestic hires, > 4) Why is your infrastructure in the US? > > 1) You must innovate or the competition wins. The MBA solution is > the cigarette adverising model - if everybody agrees not to do it, > then nobody has to foot the bill. > > 2) You absolutely don't. MBAs know chrome domes are as fungible as > computer cards. Pull one, insert a newer cheaper one. As long as > everybody plays by the rules... see (1). > > 3) You absolutely don't. Bring something in from Russia, India, or > China and trade opportunity (not on a spreadsheet) for costs (on a > spreadsheet). You are going to dump them in five years anyway, see > (2). > > 4) No sane person would do R&D in the US: OSHA, EPA, Haz-Mat, > BATF, War on Drugs, Homeland Severity, wages, benefits, retirement, > general liability, sex and race lawsuits. Go to British Colombia and > all that crap vanishes, plus the Canuckistan government gives you a > major blowjob for importing economic incentives. A chemist getting > $25K/annum in Canada is hot shit. Folks speak English, too, and there > is British Common law. Avoid the Canukistan East Coast like the > plague. > > The MBA model is like an eggshell. If anybody external flips a finger > at it, it shatters. > > -- > Uncle Al > http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ > (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) > "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net! Don't bullshit at your own expense jackass. Reason American scientists are near-slaves is that they're militarized. Spirit of military runs the science show in USA. Enjoy the consequences. -- asari bar vojude 'u moteratteb nist. "Jalal Ale-Ahmad"