Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!CALA-MUZIK!mmcatv.co.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!shelby.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Something for Eric Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 23:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Subtlties R'nt Us Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <1138874222.202592.223600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1138903056.352230.217270@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1138934889.545195.182700@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1138950348.354035.75980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139023154.625773.93000@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139028736.002284.221130@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1139039080.442826.25940@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1139085792.753912.206880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: mtfester@netscape.net NNTP-Posting-Host: haven.stanford.edu X-Trace: news.Stanford.EDU 1139095276 3019 171.67.16.19 (4 Feb 2006 23:21:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.stanford.edu User-Agent: tin/1.7.8-20050315 ("Scalpay") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.31 (i686)) Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:161927 etaka wrote: > Ernest Schaal2??4?? ????9:44 ? ?I?v?V???????\?? > ?j???[?X?O???[?v: fj.life.in-japan > Ernest Schaal wrote: > I don't know what you are talking about. What is addressed by my > previous post could be done right now, with today's technology, would > be less of an infringement on individual's rights by the current > system, and would cost billions less than now. ^^^^ You misspelled "more". Unchecked crime has a cost as well. > If you still don't get it, here is another 100% error free way to keep > "innocents" out of prison and from being executed: abolish the death > penalty and all forms of incarceration. Zero "innocents" would be > incarcerated or executed. Unfortunately, M Fester appears to believe > there is no such thing as perfection. Yeah; that d*mn Heisenberg... > > The absurdity of thinking of a 100% error-free system is especially apparent > > in systems dealing with the human condition, as knowledge of the human > > condition is far from complete. Such a system may look great in your mind, > > but in the real word one would have to deal with design flaws caused by > > incomplete knowledge and human error, and by eventual mechanical and > > electronic failures. > A legal system with no incarceration or death penalty is 100% error > free, as it applies to incarcerating or executing "innocents", which is > the focus of the original article. Which is true. A first, perhaps, for you on this thread. > > I hate to break it to you but the "Minority Report" is FICTION. > That is irrelevant. To be 100% error free, as it applies to false > imprisonment and mistaken execution, simply do away with those > penalties. All well and good; now, who (other than you) promotes such silliness? Mike