necoandjeff wrote:

> B Robson wrote:
> 
>>necoandjeff wrote:
>>
>>>B Robson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mate, Tokyoites are a bunch of hicks. I know that unless you come
>>>>here you will wonder what it's really like but seriously, you aren't
>>>>missing much, unless you want to visit the John Lennon or salt
>>>>museums. There are a few good dance clubs, a few good pubs but
>>>>nothing better than in Brisbane (except a lot more Japanese girls).
>>>>There aren't any fantastic buildings, the one really tall one is the
>>>>Tokyo goveernment. There aren't any great temples or gardens.
>>>
>>>
>>>Wow. You really need to get out some:
>>
>>In fact *you* need to see some of Japan.
> 
> 
> In fact, I've seen most of it, from Sapporo to Goto Retto, including
> Shikoku.

And you think Tokyo is the best place to live? Start again.

> 
> 
>>>Shrines and Temples:
>>
>>wow a list of shitty temples and shrines
>>2 shitty buildings
>>Great place to buy some cheap shitty omiyage; possibly the ugliest
>>temple in Japan. I've been dragged there for 3 new years and I will
>>refuse this year.
> 
> 
> I pity you Brett. You're stuck in Japan because you've been here too long,
> and your life here is miserable.

hahaha. Yeah, if that makes you feel better. I'm stuck here because
Australia only has electricity for 3 hours a day so there is no call for
network engineers and there is someone living in my North Sydney
apartment. And I've forgotten the English words for ルータ　and　スイッ
チ. And I can't use a knife and fork.

> 
> 
>>>Zojoji
>>
>>is that the one near Tokoyo Tower? My local temple is about as good as
>>that. At least it's got some nice trees.
>>
>>
>>>Yasukuni Shrine
>>
>>cough, I work over the road from Yasukuni. What exactly is "great"
>>about it? The huge metal mon? The big gates are impressive and it's a
>>good spot for drinking at the occasional matsuri and the museum is an
>>eye opener; but like all Tokyo 社寺, nothing impressive and the grounds
>>are ugly.
> 
> 
> The beautiful pond and garden are what I remember most about it.

Your memory is faulty.

> 
> 
>>>Sengakuji
>>
>>of minor historical interest certainly not pretty or "great".
>>
>>Even little Nagoya does better than that.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Parks and Gardens:
>>>Komazawa Park
>>
>>not been
> 
> 
> Perhaps one of the best parks in Tokyo, built for the Tokyo olympics. And
> lots of approachable, attractive, women who aren't little Shibuya punks like
> you're obviously used to hanging around.

Seems you think every park with more than 2 trees is the best park in Tokyo.

> 
> 
>>>Harajuku Park
>>
>>Ugly, at least you can check out the journalists and camera crews
>>checking out the cosplay girls. By the way it's name is ...
>>
>>
>>>Yoyogi Park
> 
> 
> Yep. That was a brain fart. I've been back in Tokyo for a year now, and to
> be honest, I have only been to Shibuya once and haven't been to Yoyogi Park
> at all. There have been plenty of other great places to frequent. For some
> reason I was thinking there was a separate park but it's the same one.

It has two train stations, that was probably what threw you. Oh, and the
 fact you like to talk shit.


> 
> 
>>>Hibiya Park
>>
>>yes, nice, we'll call this the Greater Imperial Palace gardens and
>>include Kitanomarukoen.
>>
>>
>>>Koishikawa Park
>>
>>dont know it
> 
> 
> Well, it's actual name is Koishikawa Shokubutsuen. You go on about how Tokyo
> has no good gardens and you haven't even visited perhaps the best one. This
> was on the grounds of the Mito-han Kamiyashiki back in the Edo Period (which
> took up most of the area West of Korakuen/Tokyo Dome back in the day). Like
> I said, you need to get out more.

Let me guess, it's got three trees and is one of the best parks in
Tokyo. I'll race out tomorrow, I'm sure that will change my opinion and
I will come to agree that Tokyo has the best gardens in Japan.

> 
> 
>>>Shiba Park
>>
>>what's the name of the expressway going past?
>>
>>
>>>Ueno Park/Zoo
>>
>>hahahahaha, yes nice lawns, also nice blue tents. However the
>>existence of Ueno Zoological Gardens totally invalidates this.
> 
> 
> I admit the zoo is pretty shitty. But the Sakura are beautiful.

for 3 days a year.

> And the
> biggest reason I mentioned it is the collection of museums.
>

Yes been to a few of them. Looking at sword blades gets tedious after
the first 100 or so, unless there are some from the key seventh century
period. I could look at those all day. Then there is the Egypt section
with a so called mummy and peice of turquoise. My favourite exhibit was
a broken peice of a ceramic tile from a Korean temple, I guess all the
good Korean stuff is in private hands. Not sure if that was from the
fascinating seventh century or not.

Have you been to a museum in any other major city in the world?

While we are on it, let's talk about art. I lined up and paid 1500 for a
Van Gough exhibition that had exactly two of his originals (under bad
light). Guess that saves me a trip to Europe.

> 
>>>Hamarikyu
>>
>>if this is the one I think it is, it's the noisiest park in the world
> 
> 
> Then it isn't the one you are thinking of.
> 

This no doubt Tokyo's best park as well.

Well it's got an expressway going past it like all good Tokyo parks so
it must be up there. Of course the Imperial gardens have an expressway
going through the middle so they must be the best.

> 
>>>Koishikawa Korakuen
>>
>>Is this different to Koishikawa Park? Or are you counting twice again?
> 
> 
> This is next door to Tokyo Dome. Different park.
> 
> 
>>>East Gardens (Imperial Palace)
>>
>>again lots of grass which is unusual for Japan.
>>
>>
>>>Shinjuku Gyoen
>>
>>it's not that good.
>>
>>Out of all of the that we have the Imperial gardens and Shinjuku.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Shopping:
>>>Odaiba
>>>Ginza
>>>Roppongi Hills
>>>Omotesando/Aoyama
>>
>>You are joking? Are you trying to tell us you are gay? Roppongi Hills?
>>Omotesando?
> 
> 
> I didn't realize you have to be gay to enjoy doing something other than
> hanging out in sleazy Shibuya teenager bars. Aren't you getting up there
> yourself, Brett?

See that's the problem, you think the alternative to going to shitty
parks and ugly temples is hanging out in sleazy bars. That's why you are
the most boring person that ever touched a computer (or maybe I have the
cause and effect reversed). Are you really as boring as this in real life?

> 
> 
>>You didn't give us a list of great buildings. There's the Tokyo MG,
>>the Fuji TV and the golden turd and the red and white Eiffel Tower.
>>Know any *good* ones?
>>
>>For the capital of the world's second largest and a population of 25
>>million (?) (greater Kanto) it's pretty pathetic. Are you from
>>Alabama?
> 
> 
> Like I said, I pity you.

Why? Because I am not taking the opportunity to visit shitty parks, ugly
temples, and not taking an interest in seventh century Japanese history?

Before you die or go back to Alabama you should really go to a city that
has lovely parks and good shopping areas. Oh, and nice architecture,
museums worth the admission price and art galleries.