Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!gcd.org!vda-gw!news.moat.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newscene!novia!novia!nntp.gol.com!203.216.70.8.MISMATCH!not-for-mail From: Ron Hitler Barrassi Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Shitlist Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:21:09 +0900 Organization: FusionGOL - Global Online Japan Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <41F9E149.8010803@hotmail.com> <_BlKd.17191$wZ2.607@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-216-000-091.engineering.gol.ad.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: nnrp.gol.com 1106896869 19564 203.216.0.91 (28 Jan 2005 07:21:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@gol.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:21:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041007 Debian/1.7.3-5 X-Accept-Language: en, ja In-Reply-To: <_BlKd.17191$wZ2.607@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:24780 necoandjeff wrote: > Ron Hitler Barrassi wrote: > >>Declan Murphy wrote: >> >>>2002-04-07 Users of the ra-nuki form, followed by those using "zenzen >>>tanoshii". >>> >> >>Oh my fucking dog, I haven't heard "zenzen tanoshii". > > > Perhaps because it is more likely to be said by a Japanese woman? maybe the type you associate with. > And I'm > guessing Declan is referring to the more general phenomenon (not a new one > by any means) of using zenzen without a negative. "zenzen ii yo", "zenzen > daijoubu", etc. > Not sure when I heard zenzen daijoubu first but it was certainly a few years ago, zenzen ii is less common but that is the time I have heard it with a postive adjective (except ii of course).