Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!news-gw1.ocn.ad.jp!news-gw2.ocn.ad.jp!nd-tk001.ocn.ad.jp!cobalt01.janis.or.jp!not-for-mail From: "Ed" Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Sun room shennanigans Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 00:03:15 +0900 Organization: JANIS Net Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <419084F1.1030502@hotmail.com> <5j11p099uq3n4jc9f1a9bgunpgk0dlk5ve@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.21.26.81 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: cobalt01.janis.or.jp 1100100134 9244 172.21.26.81 (10 Nov 2004 15:22:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@cobalt01.janis.or.jp NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Nov 2004 15:22:14 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Forwarded: by - (DeleGate/5.9.3) Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:21705 "Michael Cash" wrote in message news:5j11p099uq3n4jc9f1a9bgunpgk0dlk5ve@4ax.com... > On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:50:57 +0900, Declan Murphy > brought down from the Mount tablets > inscribed: > > >For the last few weeks I've being spending a lot of time with architects > >designing 20 apartments. We initially decided that for 6 of the > >apartments, there would be a 3.75 X 2.5 meter covered balcony. Large > >enough for two people to sit outside, even have a BBQ etc. Then when > >soundproofing and double glazing issues were considered, we decided to > >enclose the balcony with glass and make it a sun room. I was expecting > >the quote today, instead I was told "You can only have 3 instead of 6. > >The total floor space ratio to total property size can't exceed X%". > > > >Ordinarily I'd have been happy to hear it, but apparently Japan does > >have some zoning laws afterall :-( > > If you look at real estate listings the ratio is usually listed along > with the other info. > > A few years ago, some friends built a new home. A big, beautiful, > spacious two-story home. Two stories and a half, actually. But there > was no way to enter the and-a-half part. There wasn't even an opening > in the ceiling or any sort of indication that there was anything > usable above the second floor. That's not how they did it with my house. I have a third story accessible only from an opening in the ceiling of the second floor which houses a slide down stairway. The tax dudes measured the house and didn't even bother with the third story. Apparently they do have some kind of rule that if the area isn't readily accessible, then it isn't considered part of the total area space.