Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.heimat.gr.jp!news.tutrp.tut.ac.jp!news.cc.tut.ac.jp!nfeed.gw.nagoya-u.ac.jp!news-sv.sinet!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!not-for-mail From: "cc" Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Private for Raj Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 01:32:26 +0900 Organization: BIGLOBE news user Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <1099507564.292484.79620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <2uuj22F2dv4skU2@uni-berlin.de> <2uujetF2fcp7aU2@uni-berlin.de> <2v062nF2h2lumU8@uni-berlin.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coosk26ds36.osk.mesh.ad.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: bgsv5647.tk.mesh.ad.jp 1099672392 2277 211.13.9.243 (5 Nov 2004 16:33:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mesh.ad.jp NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:33:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:21167 "Kevin Gowen" wrote in message > Your misbelief is a common one. The Catholic Church is quite clear on > the need to be born again. The American Catholic Church ? That sounds to be a weird sect. > All Christians are born again. All Americans probably. Now you are all reborn, refreshed, virgin again, memory of the past has been erased, ready for 4 years... So that new Prez of yours, what's his name ? >The Catholic Church holds that one is born again through > baptism. In Roman era, there were things like that for sure. And martyrs in arenas with lions. At some times, I was reading a lots of litterature (=fiction) about old-time Catholic stories. Stories about the Inquisition organising theatral events for converting people, making them scream "I'm dead..." to *reborn* as Christians with a new identity, then they'd go back home and organized equally weird secret Jewish/Indian/Voodoo rituals in caves which would cause them other trials and weird Catho-rituals. Or the Sisters that were made to sleep one night in a coffin to symbolise their death, before taking the gown. Do you also go to the exorcist sometimes ? Do you burn witches in your neighbourhood ? CC