Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf2.xephion.ne.jp!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!shelby.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: mtfester@netMAPSONscape.net Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Politicians block comic over 'fake' Nanjing Massacre tale Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Subtlties R'nt Us Lines: 40 Sender: Mike Fester Message-ID: References: <73fde4f0.0410141040.6f70a6c4@posting.google.com> <41727888.E5AB9CBC@yahoo.co.jp> <2tfd93F1u9dlhU1@uni-berlin.de> <417283EF.78BF8224@yahoo.co.jp> <2tfhb5F1vl46qU1@uni-berlin.de> <41729DA5.F43F2003@yahoo.co.jp> <2tfnfgF1vjq43U1@uni-berlin.de> <4172B950.E992CD1E@yahoo.co.jp> <4173FD64.885E9EB4@yahoo.co.jp> <41745995.55C08A9E@yahoo.co.jp> <4174EDB2.CE06CF49@yahoo.co.jp> Reply-To: mtfester@netscape.net NNTP-Posting-Host: haven.stanford.edu X-Trace: news.Stanford.EDU 1098192475 12096 171.67.16.19 (19 Oct 2004 13:27:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.stanford.edu User-Agent: tin/1.5.12-20020311 ("Toxicity") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.26 (i686)) Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:19672 Eric Takabayashi wrote: > Ernest Schaal wrote: >> You seem to conveniently forget that the Japanese military was mainly >> responsible for those deaths, expecting the civilians to fight the enemy and >> to commit suicide rather than surrender. > Right. It was the fault of the Japanese for all 100,000 deaths. No need to consider > American responsibility at all. Those Okinawans are a bunch of whiners. No, but sometimes you're not given clear-cut choices. In such a case, you're going to make mistakes, and will usually err on the side of protecting your own rather than the enemy. >> Military were also hiding in those caves and were shooting at Gis, or did >> you forget that? > Always? So why did Americans need to approach or to use translators, to even find > out if people were within? Um, not sure what this means; if they were gassing caves without finding out if people were in there, then there seems little intent to hurt them, yes? >> Did you forget that resistance was particularly intense >> from those caves? > Whatever you say. > Kill Chinese, bad. Criticize Chinese bad. > Kill Japanese/Okinawan civilians, ok. Criticize Japanese, good! More like "Deliberately target civilians, bad." BTW, the Japanese criticize the Japanese/JIA for their actions in Okinawa far more strongly than I've ever heard them criticize the US (or more strongly than they criticize Japanese actions in China.) Mike