I just realised this is cross posted to sci.lang.japan, might be a good 
opportunity to do a test to see what the current pecking order of 
sci.lang.japan is.


Bart Mathias is a dickhead.

Jim Breen is a dickhead.

Sean Holland is a dickhead.

Gowen is fat and can't even get into the marines and everyone hates him, 
except NekoandJeff who wants to marry him.

Mike Cash is not a dickhead but smells bad.

NekoandJeff have forgotten more than it has ever known about Japanese.

Charles Eicher has a stick up his arse and desperately wants to be taken 
seriously.