Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!ccsf.homeunix.org!news1.wakwak.com!nf1.xephion.ne.jp!onion.ish.org!news.daionet.gr.jp!news.yamada.gr.jp!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.mesh.ad.jp!news.moat.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-hub.siol.net!newsfeed1.eu.ignite.net!newsr1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: "Tony" Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: It's official - we are NOT very popular Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <2mi937FmsiluU1@uni-berlin.de> <41040e84$0$568$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <2mk6m7FnlouhU1@uni-berlin.de> <2mk7tcFnkclbU1@uni-berlin.de> <4104f15b$0$14941$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: "Tony" NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-186-179.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: sparta.btinternet.com 1090862080 3986 213.122.186.179 (26 Jul 2004 17:14:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:14:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:15762 Its the way these people deal with anyone who disagrees with them. If anyone mentions immigration, they accuse you of being racist, or a fascist. Then you're supposed to stop. Its worked well for many years, but not so well these days. If someone calls you a racist, when talking about immigration, you can be pretty sure you've won the argument, and they don't know what else to day. Congratulations. "Giny" wrote in message news:4104f15b$0$14941$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl... > Haluk, > > I think it is better not to deal with these things the way you do. > Yes, it is so easy to generalise and I think you do that. > > I have lived in Japan for 7 years and did not always feel welcome. > However I learnt the language, I tried to adjust myself and even then I > faced some problems. > Ofcourse I am different, but I ALWAYS thought it is THEIR country and I am > the one to adjust as much as possible! > > I feel the same about Turcs and Morroccons here. > Many Turcs and Morroccons are Dutch nationals now, they have adjusted and at > the same time they have succeeded in keeping their own identity. > > The biggest problem is however that many Dutch people in typical old > neighbourhoods do not feel comfortable anymore in their own neighbourhood. > If I read your message they and I should shut up?? > That is neglecting their needs and problems. > I would like to be more positive, listen to BOTH sides about the problems, > NOT ignoring hte problems of the original inhabitants. > If you DO ignore the needs/wishes of the original inhabitants, that is not > good either. > It is however very difficult to create a good balance. > > I do not at all understand that you call people so easily fascists pigs. > I find the way you answer me very insulting. > I cannot write my feelings and opinions so well in English as it is not my > language, but I certainly am NOT a fascist. > > Giny > > >