On 8 Feb 2004 03:31:30 -0800, wasabi  ...
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>Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> wrote in message
>news:<c037u602dkr@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> On 7 Feb 2004 04:19:15 -0800, wasabi  ...
>> >
>> >Brett Robson <jet_boy@deja.com> wrote in message
>> >news:<c00d1102q3t@drn.newsguy.com>...
>> >> On 6 Feb 2004 06:28:52 -0800, wasabi  ...
>> >> >
>> >> >superoutland@aol.com (SuperOutland) wrote in message
>> >> >news:<e91ad9af.0402050858.8cd835f@posting.google.com>...
>>>>>>What is the point of japanese buddhist training when alcohol would do just
>>  fine?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Just to give you an idea of Japanese philosophy, I'll post the
>> >> >following notes:
>> >> >
>> >> >Under the auspices of unmei the course of events in life was regarded
>> >> >as being largely coincidental, while the view associated with
>> >> >shukumei, which incorporated Buddhist influences, was more
>> >> >deterministic, conceiving the individual span of life in terms of
>> >> >previous and subsequent incarnations.
>> >> >
>> >> >bun-that which should be so.
>> >> >
>> >> >mibun-a person's station in life.
>> >> >
>> >> >In the spirit of akiramae one could allow all events to take their
>> >> >course passively and without anxiety, recognizing it as the way
>> >> >ordained by providence.
>> >> >
>> >> >fushigi shugi-prescribing restraint of emotion
>> >> >
>> >> >ittaikan-the feeling of being one body.
>> >> >
>> >> >negumi arai-the love of innocence and artlessness may explain why
>> >> >Japanese are not very fond of cynicism and sarcasm.  Even the mildest
>> >> >form of irony makes Japanese students cringe, and can earn you a
>> >> >reputation of being iyami (disagreeable and offensive).
>> >> 
>>>> Interesting that Japanese dropped the most important parts of Buddhism, being
>> >> nice to people and respecting all life (even Koreans).
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >
>> >What are you talking about? Ninjou?
>> 
>>Yes, but there is more to it than than. Buddhism respects all life. This is the
>> most important part of Buddhism but never made it across the Japan Sea.
>> 
> 
>The Buddhism that was brought to Japan was compatible and blended with
>Shinto that teaches close harmony between people, nature and the gods.

and completely dropped the respect life bit.


> The gods were in everything: rocks, trees, rivers, plants and
>animals.  Shinto encouraged simplicity and cleanliness as signs of
>inner goodness. 

As opposed to actuall being nice.


>It emphasised spiritual and physical purity. 

As opposed to purity of mind.


>Followers were to be pure in heart and mind and grateful for the many
>blessings of the kami.

But didn't have to pass that on to their fellow creatures. 

Perhaps one of the world's most selfish religions.


>
>So I think that you're putting me on or badly misinformed.

I have studied Buddhism in Nepal and Thailand and most recently in Takaoka
(Japan). What passes for Buddhism here bears little resemblance to Buddhism.



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