Rob Kelk wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:40:39 -0500, Liam Slider
> <liam@NOSPAM.liamslider.com> wrote:
> 
> <requoted text snipped>
> 
>>Yes, and the Internet was built on a similar concept to something that 
>>exists in the United States and a few other places. Freedom of Speech 
>>and Expression. He has a right to have his say, regardless of whether or 
>>not you agree with it.
> 
> 
> And others have the same Freedom of Speech to have their say.  If they
> choose to say "shut up", that's their perogative - regardless of whether
> or not you agree with it.
> 
> (Note, however, that "freedom of speech" is not the same as "being
> forced to listen".  If you really don't want to read what a particular
> person has to post, then killfile him and you won't have to read his
> posts again.)

I never said he didn't have a right to bitch, nor that he didn't have a 
right tosay shut up. But he was acting like he felt that this other 
person had no right to say anything at all. "Shut up" is very different 
from "you can't express your opinions." And he doesn't have to read it, 
he doesn't think it's appropriate he shouldn't read it then. Instead he 
chose to be an ass, and rude. That too is is right. I agree with you there.


However. He pointed out this this is essentially "public space." Which 
means he was implying that public space has rules. Which it does. I was 
merely informing him of just what those rules were. In this public place 
where "there is no there, there" we do have Freedom of Speech. Although 
we do like to keep things on the topic of discussion, which things 
usually are.

That's one of the things I get pissed about, people imposing on other 
people's Freedom. Sorry if I offended.

> 
> BTW, why are you bringing up a "United States" concept in the japan.*
> hierarchy?  That seems a bit out of place...
> 

It's crossposted, I'm in RAAM. However I do believe Japan has the same 
concept, especially after we...um...helped...them write a bunch of new 
laws and a constitution. ^_^

I'll set a followup so as to end confusion. As I didn't even know I had 
crossposted the first time.

-- 
"It is really quite amazing by what margins competent but conservative
scientists and engineers can miss the mark, when they start with the
preconceived idea that what they are investigating is impossible. When 
this happens, the most well-informed men become blinded by their 
prejudices and are unable to see what lies directly ahead of them." - 
Arthur C. Clarke, 1963