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From: mtfester@netscape.net
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Subject: Re: Japan and Germany
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC)
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bokuwaotakudesu <_anarchosyndicalistclasswarrior_> wrote:
> mtfester@netscape.net wrote:

>> Right, the Japanese barbarity was more "run-of-the-mill"; the sort of
>> petty atrocities (putting aside the scale) that had been (and still is)
>> practiced from time immemorial. The German model of applying then-modern
>> industrial methodology, even when it demonstrably interfered with the war
>> effort, frightened people out of their apathy.

> well I am glad someone read my too-long post! Anyways on to your points:
> 'Tis too true that "I" cannot really compare Dr. Mengele to the -I don't 
> know how many Japanese- ;I just don't know enough.  I wish someone would 
> of commented on the idea that "we"<in the West> don't care about this 
> because of the race/ethnicity of the people invovled. Again, sorry my 

Perhaps, but at the time, the people in "the West" didn't really care
about the Jews, either. Different times...

> post was that of a raving madman but this sort of discusion will do it 
> to me. Also I would say that whatever happened in Manchukuo wasn't so 
> "run-of-the-mill" if only because of the length of time it was practiced 
> and the severity of it.

Hmm, you ought to read some of the older accounts of what people used to
do in warfare; in terms of %ages of populations, many far exceed Japanese
actions in China. And most people don't really bring up the German treatment
of Russian POWs (such as putting a couple hundred thousand of them behind
a wire fence, without jackets, in the Russian winter.) The focus is
usually on the camps.

Mike